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Thread: O/T Woohoo, £350m a week extra for the NHS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by millmoormagic View Post
    We're a rich country, what's simple is that this gov't CHOOSES not to fund the NHS, when will you understand this? This is a deliberate act the tories are carrying out(with the support of nutjob UKIPPERS)

    Now, just for once, take a look at what the Labour party policies are for all those things you mention, and cmpare them with any other party, just do that.
    Labour's increase in spending went where?

    On GP's salaries, they also allowed them to contract out of out-of-hours care which almost all did, really improved the NHS that.

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    As someone with a great interest in the NHS and substantial inside knowledge I've always been impressed by greatfires knowledge on this subject.
    I don't know his background but he does have his finger on the pulse.

    Millmoormagic may also be correct in that the government may well be deliberately running down the NHS until we are begging for privatisation.

    Greatfire is correct that it was a labour government who were responsible for the mess in General Practice.

    We could not believe our luck when we were allowed to opt out of out of hours and charged 7 per cent of our money and then given a 20 per cent pay rise.

    The inside story is our top negotiater was running down the corridor skipping after talks.

    At the time of the new contracts most GPs we're happy to do out of hours in cooperatives which provided good care,interest and kept our skills up to date.

    Now we have private organisations providing services on the cheap and it's terrible and dangerous hence the pressure on A&E

    It all stemmed from a government obsessed with targets and tick box data who had no understanding about the depth of work GPs did so they paid us extra bonus money for things we were already doing.

    We were delighted of course!
    Last edited by kempo; 10-02-2017 at 07:25 AM.

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    It's also too big with too many layers of managemnet, chap on Question Time worked in NHS procurement and said he couldn't make the savings he wanted because of all the bureaucracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    It's also too big with too many layers of managemnet, chap on Question Time worked in NHS procurement and said he couldn't make the savings he wanted because of all the bureaucracy.
    First thing you've been right on for months...

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