Utter Bull**** Attendance figures

[Alexandra The Great]

Sadly it appears Crewe Alexandra and clubs in general have been lying through their teeth over their crowds.
Apparently they are now simply adding up all the tickets sold and giving that figure out as the attendance rather than,as one would have thought,simply adding up all the turnstile counts.
Modern football....just gets more s**t by the year.

[jamesdad]

I would have thought that they should declare the actual tickets sold as this is the figure they will have to pay tax on. If you go on the turnstile count this will include comp and a few tickets for the the railway end and these are not paid for so they do not want to pay tax on tickets not paid for .

[AlexLeicester]

No evidence to support this allegation. No factual basis behind it. Legally it doesn't stand up.

[jimmyboldon]

Sadly it appears Crewe Alexandra and clubs in general have been lying through their teeth over their crowds.
Apparently they are now simply adding up all the tickets sold and giving that figure out as the attendance rather than,as one would have thought,simply adding up all the turnstile counts.
Modern football....just gets more s**t by the year.

So what happened to your '8000+' gate you were certain of before the season started? The only way that could have happened was with creative accounting/counting etc

[Alexandra The Great]

I would have thought that they should declare the actual tickets sold as this is the figure they will have to pay tax on. If you go on the turnstile count this will include comp and a few tickets for the the railway end and these are not paid for so they do not want to pay tax on tickets not paid for .

The club accounts department would surely have their own detailed record of what tickets have been bought,given away free,or whatever and that information they can easily pass on to HMRC or whoever.
So that should have no bearing or influence whatsoever when it comes to announcing the actual match attendance which should simply be the amount of people watching.

[Alexandra The Great]

No evidence to support this allegation. No factual basis behind it. Legally it doesn't stand up.

Sadly it appears the clubs are ordered by the Football authorities to include all tickets sold/given away whether those people have actually turned up or not.
It's simply propaganda to make football look more popular.
Would love to be proved wrong.

[RenegadeDS]

Sadly it appears the clubs are ordered by the Football authorities to include all tickets sold/given away whether those people have actually turned up or not.
It's simply propaganda to make football look more popular.
Would love to be proved wrong.

What difference does it make if the ticket has been sold and the money collected?

[Alexandra The Great]

What difference does it make if the ticket has been sold and the money collected?

Like many others you're missing the whole point.
The attendance is the amount of people that are actually THERE.
That's what we want to know.

[RenegadeDS]

Like many others you're missing the whole point.
The attendance is the amount of people that are actually THERE.
That's what we want to know.

Why? Attendance figures are, and always have been, about tickets allocated/sold for that specific match.

[AstonAlex]

It is also illegal to quote anything other than tickets sold. The practice of quoting numbers through the turnstiles ( or substantially fewer in the case of some clubs) was notorious in the 60s and 70s and was outlawed by HMRC as being a tax dodge - who'd have thought it, eh?