O/T Martin McGuinness

[Newcy Wolf]

This isn't another thread starter about hoping the scum rots in hell, there are plenty of those around.

The bit that I found absurd was the accolades about him being a good honest family man so I had the scene in my head.

Martin McGuinness is saying goodnight to his children and they ask him what he did when he was younger. They know he is a politician now...

"Well," he says,
"I used to murder people or order the murder of people. But hey, don't worry kids, that's all in the past. I'm well into peace now. All I want is peace. Goodnight."

[TheDing]

I read that he leaves a widow he left plenty of those in his lifetime

[theplater]

Martin McGuinness was a massive character and absolutely imperitive in the 'peace pressess' succeeding, and I'll tell you for why!

Peace can only survive in Northern Ireland in my opinion, at this moment in time, if there is a joint leadership between Sinn Fein and the Ulster Unionists. However, it can't be just any member of Sinn Fein and Unionist Party, it has to be a 'big player'. McGuinness was 'that player'! Bearing in mind that there still are a hard line band of Republicans that will seize whatever opportunity they can get to restart the troubles it needs someone of such high authority within that movement to overcome that. McGuinness had that authority. His role as a senior, if not the highest commander in the IRA at the height of it's existence, put him in a unique situation where he could command respect even with those 'hard liner's' who didn't want to surrender to Her Majesty's Government. I will also say this. The peace process, in my opinion, can only continue if it stays as a shared leadership with a figure in the same mould as McGuiness as Sinn Fein's representitive.

Right.....that is a hard pill to swallow having to admit that because as far as I'm concerned Martin McGuinness was a man with blood on his hands. Whether or not those hands were directly linked with death matters not a jot. I do not have a problem with Politicians, or others queueing up to recognise his role in the peace process but I do have a problem with them heaping praise on him as if he was the 'Messiah'! He wasn't, he was a murdering terrorist first and foremost and that should never be forgotten or forgiven.

It really pains me to say this......but I hope he is replaced politically by a character that can command a similar respect, if only to see the peace process continue and survive, but I'm sure this can only happen in a joint adventure with the 'Unionists' and that the required Sinn Fein candidate will also have had to have blood on his hands so as to appease others who otherwise would wish to see it fail. It's a sad world we live in.

[Newcy Wolf]

Do you not think he hedged his bets and decided that it was far better to advocate peace rather than succumb to the potential arrest and trial?
Big name or not, my view on McGuinness is that he got away with murder. Literally.

We are lucky today. We have won a small war.

Two murdering *******s have died in two days.

I'm a simple man, I'm happy with that.

[Acido]

Newcy, I know you have seen what they have said/posted on Burnsley mad.
And goodness me, if ever there was a set of comments which sum up what we are all thinking eh, its what they have said/posted on there!

[theplater]

1st point: No. not really. Agree with second point. Third point is unarguable with end of.

[wolves71]

This isn't another thread starter about hoping the scum rots in hell, there are plenty of those around.

The bit that I found absurd was the accolades about him being a good honest family man so I had the scene in my head.

Martin McGuinness is saying goodnight to his children and they ask him what he did when he was younger. They know he is a politician now...

"Well," he says,
"I used to murder people or order the murder of people. But hey, don't worry kids, that's all in the past. I'm well into peace now. All I want is peace. Goodnight."

The Rage Against The Machine Song 'Killing In The Name Of' springs to mind for me with these type of people. It's always the innocent people that suffer if you ask me and not the above person.