OT parliament in lockdown, officer shot, shots heard

[Yak]

I'll be willing to bet he's on the watch list and probably openly slates anything that's not Muslim.

Just guessing.

[jolly_roger]

I'll be willing to bet he's on the watch list and probably openly slates anything that's not Muslim.

Just guessing.

Turkish would be my bet

[Lolmorgan]

I'll be willing to bet he's on the watch list and probably openly slates anything that's not Muslim.

Just guessing.

Good guess,he was sentenced to 4 & half years for funding terrorising moved to Europe & went off the radar.

[John2]

Ellis, you are a terrorist's wet dream. Your reaction is exactly what they are trying to provoke.

Terrorism is designed to use fear to provoke a disproportionate fear to the reality, to make people feel powerless.

Such a strong visceral reaction, while totally understandable after such an emotional event, is counter productive and exactly what the terrorist wants to provoke. They want to divide.

Suggesting mass deportation on the actions of an extreme minority is going to make things far worse, not better. If we want to make things better for the next generation that is the absolute wrong reactino. Literally no different from Nazi Germany.

This sort of divisive event and talk pushes people to the extreme on both sides. It plays perfectly into the hands of what the terrorist wants to achieve - gives them an easy victory. Don't give them it. Terrorism in Western Europe is actually at far lower levels than it was before the 90s. Its outrageously improbably that you'll get killed by a terrorist. If you're scared you should be far more scared just crossing the street.

Not all cultures are equal, but all human beings are and deserve to be treated based on their own actions as individuals rather than held responsible for the actions of others. Any culture that abandons that principle is on a slippery slope and should definitely consider itself to be inferior.

My thoughts are with all those affected by todays tragic events.

[Ellis_D]

Suggesting mass deportation on the actions of an extreme minority is going to make things far worse, not better. If we want to make things better for the next generation that is the absolute wrong reactino. Literally no different from Nazi Germany.

This country - and the whole of Europe - will be much, MUCH safer if all Muslims, good and bad, were not in it. How can Muslim terrorists commit terror attacks in Britain if there are no Muslims in Britain? I admit, it is a drastic action, of course it is. But it is the only action that will make us as safe as possible to 100% safe.

And it is COMPLETELY different to Nazi Germany. The complete opposite. There weren't tens of thousands of Jews, gypsies or disabled people all over Germany or Europe committing terror attacks, or supporting terror attacks, like there are Muslims nowadays. Islam is the most fascist ideology of today, and the closest thing to Nazism. It is Islam that is intolerant, fascist, racist, extremist, ***ist, homophobic and evil.

There were people who did not wish to confront Nazism in world war 2. There are people today who, rather than confront Islamism, make excuses, make apologies, and spread lies - propaganda. People repeat those lies, "Islam is the religion of peace", "Opposing Islam means you are a racist", "You are playing into the terrorist's hands", etc, etc.

[Yak]

It's outrageously improbable you will get killed off a terrorist.

Try telling that to the innocent victims today.

Attitudes like yours are scary and probably why they keep getting away with it.

Unbelievable really.

[jolly_roger]

See just as I said, that the apologists would appear.

(And his multi has also logged on at the same time - odd is that isn't it?)

[millavanilla]

We're to soft this country. March 29th Brexit means Brexit. It's England, our way, our religion. All Muslims sent packing, along with East Europeans who aren't working. How many more senseless deaths is it going to take.

Brilliant post gwru..lets all join in...

[jolly_roger]

Cue the "good muslims" excuse

[John2]

This country - and the whole of Europe - will be much, MUCH safer if all Muslims, good and bad, were not in it. How can Muslim terrorists commit terror attacks in Britain if there are no Muslims in Britain? I admit, it is a drastic action, of course it is. But it is the only action that will make us as safe as possible to 100% safe.

And it is COMPLETELY different to Nazi Germany. The complete opposite. There weren't tens of thousands of Jews, gypsies or disabled people all over Germany or Europe committing terror attacks, or supporting terror attacks, like there are Muslims nowadays. Islam is the most fascist ideology of today, and the closest thing to Nazism. It is Islam that is intolerant, fascist, racist, extremist, ***ist, homophobic and evil.

There were people who did not wish to confront Nazism in world war 2. There are people today who, rather than confront Islamism, make excuses, make apologies, and spread lies - propaganda. People repeat those lies, "Islam is the religion of peace", "Opposing Islam means you are a racist", "You are playing into the terrorist's hands", etc, etc.

Ellis, you could never gain widespread support for mass deportation, it would only be achieved by dictatorship rule. It would be so hugely divisive, because so many people fundementally believe in human rights, that the country would be far more conflict from such a divided population than the threat of terrorism ever provided. The terrorists, ironically, would have achieved their dream.

History has many lessons for us about how societies turn nasty in economically hard times, blaming immigrants and all sorts of outside forces. It also is rife with people wanting to twist history to justify their own position, and huge disconnection from reality of the population.

Make no mistake, Islam is an awful religion which leads the most ignorant to some appaling actions, but they do it to provoke exactly this reaction, you're handing them an easy win, you're living in disproprtionate fear just as they want, its ruining your ability to enjoy your life, just as they want, and its leading you to want to make other people's life worse and create a vicious downhill cycle, just as they want.

I'm not a religious man, but if there were a lesson from what many claim to be the British religion, its turn the other cheek. If you want peace, you must be peaceful.