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[millmoormagic]

Could answer them all, but its not as simplistic as "its thatchers fault" which means the explanation may be lost in translation.

Heres a snippet, In-work poverty has risen, overall poverty has fallen (from 2010) based on JRF figures and using poverty as someone earning less than 60% of median earnings, can you establish what factors contribute, and what the overall impact is?

No clues...I'll check your answer later

Well, firstly i'm surprised you're admitting that poverty, in any guise, is on the increase in the 6th richest country in the world, i'm also surprised that you're using figures from a foundation dedicated to reducing poverty, welcome to the tory party, full of bull trying to be smart arses to disguise what they're actually doing to their own people.

I think you've answered your own questions regarding contributing factors, given that you've stated that someone in poverty is seen as earning 60% less of the country average wage, the overall impact? simply this, the huge 700% rise in foodbank outlets, the staggering rise in homlesness in the 6th richest country in the world....

Pathetic to be honest, "spend spend spend" you say about the Labour party, the only party to oversee an actuall surplass in our national finances for donkey's years, oppsed to the tories absolute ruination of the economy by it's continuos ability to allow wealth to drain from the country by selling all it's assets to its rich friends, then giving those same rich friends massive tax breaks, yeh, the tory party, the party of strong and stable bullsheite.

[ragingpup]

What's wrong with May changing her stance?

MPs are there to represent the requirements of the majority of the electorate.

The majority wanted Brexit, she's the Prime Minister so she's doing what the majority want.

Months on and still the remoaners can't quite grasp this simple principle.

To defeat the enemy without you have first to defeat the enemy within.

Grist, this is an astonishing viewpoint! Do you really believe that?

When you vote for a politician, don't you want them to have a particular stance or opinion of their own? Brexit is only one (quite important to many people) issue. Aside from this, the parties are carrying a host of other values and intentions, some of which will work against the very people who vote them in.

I'm ambivalent on Brexit. I like some aspects of the UK defining itself fully (depending on who defines those values!) but I am deeply concerned that one of the politicians arguing most passionately against Brexit on economic grounds before the vote has, without any clear justification or accountability, changed her stance completely? Why? Maybe the damage that she argued was going to happen is going to happen??? Doesn't this worry you?

But for God's sake, stop simplifying things to the base level: 'remoaners', 'enemy' - who's the enemy?? I'm just here pointing out serious flaws both in our politicians and our ways of holding them to account and already I'm a socialist, remoaner, enemy. Just talk about the issues man, like grown ups!

[gm_gm]

The majority of the electorate want a lot of things but don't get them, is May going to flip flop on capital punishment? why have a PM? Lets just have a referendum every week on a subject picked out of a hat!

We didn't hold a binding referendum on Capital Punishment.

Tories have spent more tony you are right but that was because of circumstances which involved bailing out the banks, quantitative easing and lending initiatives to stabilise the economy.

More on the NHS

[gm_gm]

Well, firstly i'm surprised you're admitting that poverty, in any guise, is on the increase in the 6th richest country in the world, i'm also surprised that you're using figures from a foundation dedicated to reducing poverty, welcome to the tory party, full of bull trying to be smart arses to disguise what they're actually doing to their own people.

I think you've answered your own questions regarding contributing factors, given that you've stated that someone in poverty is seen as earning 60% less of the country average wage, the overall impact? simply this, the huge 700% rise in foodbank outlets, the staggering rise in homlesness in the 6th richest country in the world....

Pathetic to be honest, "spend spend spend" you say about the Labour party, the only party to oversee an actuall surplass in our national finances for donkey's years, oppsed to the tories absolute ruination of the economy by it's continuos ability to allow wealth to drain from the country by selling all it's assets to its rich friends, then giving those same rich friends massive tax breaks, yeh, the tory party, the party of strong and stable bullsheite.

Can you explain the causes and reason?

[millmoormagic]

The scope of that question is far too broad as it covers too many subjects some which require detailed economic analysis and forecasting, which cant be proven or disproven.

Suppose this will have to do for now...

But, just to touch on a few causes/reasons;

Union bashing legislation, more power to the owners, less power to the workers...

Zero hour contracts....back to the 1920's/30's, doff your cap to the gaffer and you mght get work...

Exploititive owners reaping rich rewards while giving their zero hour contraced workers NO pay rises, relying on the gov't to raise the minimum wage...

Wage growth in the UK lower than every other european country, massively lower....

Loan sharks, legal ones, allowed to choke people to death through exploititive practices....

[millmoormagic]

We didn't hold a binding referendum on Capital Punishment.

Tories have spent more tony you are right but that was because of circumstances which involved bailing out the banks, quantitative easing and lending initiatives to stabilise the economy.

More on the NHS

True socialist principles, i'm sure you'll agree, spending state money to prop up failed industries.....where have i heard that before......

[ragingpup]

True socialist principles, i'm sure you'll agree, spending state money to prop up failed industries.....where have i heard that before......

Like the bankers???

[Shark27]

What do I want her to say??????????!!!!!!

I want her to say WHY, throughout the referendum she argued passionately that we should remain in the EU, why she said that leaving would damage our economy and above all WHY she now thinks we should go in the exact opposite direction to that which she spent months arguing against??

More than that I want us people who are heading down that road to be asking her: what has changed? Why should we trust anything you say?

I want her to be subject to the kind of scrutiny that Corbyn gets on here.

(To be totally honest, I've read through the remarks and the lack (so far) of even one positive policy or aspect of Theresa May that backs up why many on the board are backing her, and it does really seem to suggest that people are swallowing headlines and soundbites and sounding them off against anyone even vaguely left wing. Don't want to say that, but honestly, that's how it looks...)

Like I said, I was under the impression that she wasn't that passionate about it. I didn't follow her specific campaign too closely but that's what the main broadcasters alluded to.

She can't exactly stick to her remain campaign anyway can she. Also even if she does still feel that Brexit will damage our economy it would not be great for negotiations starting on that footing.

What I find worrying is that there are people in this country who seem to want Brexit to be a failure.

[millmoormagic]

Like the bankers???

My point exactly, the capitalist's slag socialism off as spend spend spend, yet our capitalist system has had to be bailed out by a socialist ideology, you couldn't make it up....

[a123]

Yeah we should have let the bank's fail.

What would you have all done when you went to draw your money out and the clerk turned round and said sorry the safe's empty.