O/T Corbyn will eclipse Rotherham's record losing streak

[howdydoo]

There you have it.

That's the problem. These guys are taking the p!$$.


The fat cats are doing the same.


If you've spread your seed, Look after your own. If you've got kids get them in the best state schools you can and give them all the support you can.

If you truly bring them up right, they've got every chance. Don't let the cynics and/or the do gooders and/or the fat cats influence anything

Do what's best for your own. The rest don't appreciate anything you do for them anyway. The system is beeping 'red alert'. 'Your own' :means: your family, friends, real people in the community. If you give something, make sure sure you know where it's going. If not, be careful because it might come back and hit you in the boll@cks.

Don't believe all these people in the system. Rich man, Poor man. Union boss, politician.

All in it for themselves. The system has been manipulated to f00k. I abhor it.

Union leaders, proper politicians from a bygone age will be turning in their graves.

£0.5m per week for a footballer? £10m+ Per film for a film star?

Someone's having a laugh.

Tax people at source and have done with it all.

Stop reproducing chavs and in-breds and look after the working classes.

Genuine people who just want to have a nice life.

F00k the rest.

[millmoormagic]

Posting a link like that proves that you're on a wind up.

Just got in from work, didn't realise the link didn't work, i'll look later, if you like.

[KerrAvon]

The question is straight forward this time, do you want a NHS??

That’s not a straightforward question at all. Nor is it the one we should be asking.

There are several questions, all of which arise from the changing nature of medicine and the population since the NHS was founded. We now have an aging population, some of whom will suffer from illness that would have once killed fairly quickly, but is now treatable, but only at substantial and continuing expense. With that being the case, one of the main questions is whether the country can still afford a comprehensive, free-at-the-point-of-provision system.

The NHS is such a sacred cow in this country that, like on other issues such as immigration, it is almost impossible to have a sensible discussion about it. We get no honesty from any political party when it comes to the NHS. The Tories won’t admit that is cash starved and failing and the Labour Party won’t tell us how they would pay for it. The notion of putting up taxes for only high earners is laughable; there aren’t enough of them to raise the sums involved and the super-rich will simply move their wealth or themselves off shore. Increased corporate taxation will simply stifle investment and innovation and, when they taxes get high enough, the companies – and their jobs – will simply move out of the UK .

[KerrAvon]

Here here, there's a real difference in Labour, and you know what, it's because of Corbyn, you can believe all the mainstream media's lies all you want, the fact is, that Corbyn is a principled politician, something this country has been sadly lacking for donkey's....

He’s so principled that he trousered £20 000 for appearing on a programme for an Iranian TV company that is implicated in the torture of journalists and has described Hamas and Hezbollah as ‘friends’. And let’s not forget the Virgin Trains debacle where he happily took part in an attempt to mislead.

[KerrAvon]

I'm talking about the Labour in fighting FFS!!! Labour were doing well before that and the Tories were in a mess.

I'm sorry, but this is nonsense. Labour has struggled ever since Len McCluskey and his chums put the current 'leader' in place.

I don't think there is any prospect of the current Labour Party gaining power; there are too many people alive who remember the economic vandalism wrought by unrestrained Trade Unions and by the nonsense Socialist policies that it espouses.

Socialism has only ever delivered misery for the people it is supposed to help.

[KerrAvon]

Ah, that old chestnut, the little note left by a junior ex minister....come on, do you really think that was meant in a vicious way??

Talking about old chestnut, ah, the country was already broke then, shall we ask the question why??? Let's take a look at what the banking industry did for this country, just about ruined it to an extent that the whole country is suffering massively today, to be bailed out in billions by US, the taxpayer, yet this gov't STILL gives those same bankers every break going, time for the decent people in society to get some breaks, in my view.

You don't deny the deficit has gone up because you can't spin it back to Corbyn, simple as that.

Well, just for one, free school meals for kids in primary schools, a lot of which don't get a whole lot to eat. That will be paid for by a levy on grammar school entry.....

It's irrelevant whether the note was left in a vicious way or not.

The deficit hasn’t gone up. It’s gone down significantly. The national debt has gone up because there is a deficit.

I really don’t understand why the Left constantly take the deficit point. Given the economic upheaval of 2008 onwards, it was inevitable that the Labour government of the time and the governments that followed it would run significant deficits, but that situation cannot be allowed to continue indefinitely. If the Left feel that the deficit should have been cut more quickly, perhaps they should explain what further cuts should have been made?

When you refer to a levy on grammar school entry, I assume you mean VAT on private school fees? I don’t know if you’ve ever had much to do with private schools. If you did, you’d find people from across society who are working hard to get their kids what they believe to be the best education available. Many of those parents remortgage their homes, forgo evenings out, forget nicer cars or holidays and scrimp and save to achieve that. And, of course, they pay taxes whilst doing so - putting into a state education system that their children aren’t using.

This is old Labour at its worst – preaching the politics of envy and prejudice and seeking to hit those who aspire to improve the lot of their families. If it were ever put it into effect, it would hit only that large body of parents who are struggling to buy their children’s education and who would not be able to do if the price were to include VAT. On that policy alone, any chance of me voting Labour under its current 'leadership' evaporates.

[KerrAvon]

It's wrong howdy. They should be on the average wages of their members. If you are aunion leader you have to relate to your membership in a real way it is certainly hypocritical not to

Does Scargill still live in his London flat - paid for by the NUM members?

I see Len McCluskey has been given £417 000 by Unite to buy his London flat. It's in Borough Market - very nice!

[kempo]

Listen greatfire, there's not a cat in hells chance of me ever taking anything you say seriously, you're a proven liar.

I've just posted the reasoning behind the policy, just because your warped mind cannot accept that then fine, we all know which way your vote is going, and you know which way mine is, so, either post a good reason and argumant as to why, or don't bother at all.

What a nice and charming person you are.

Everyone who disagrees with you is a liar and will be abused by yourself.

Maybe it's an act and in real life you are one of the Great Romantics....let's hope!

[gm_gm]

What a nice and charming person you are.

Everyone who disagrees with you is a liar and will be abused by yourself.

Maybe it's an act and in real life you are one of the Great Romantics....let's hope!

I think 18 years down Silverwood may have influenced him both politically and emotionally.

[great_fire]

The NHS is such a sacred cow in this country that, like on other issues such as immigration, it is almost impossible to have a sensible discussion about it. We get no honesty from any political party when it comes to the NHS. The Tories won’t admit that is cash starved and failing and the Labour Party won’t tell us how they would pay for it. The notion of putting up taxes for only high earners is laughable; there aren’t enough of them to raise the sums involved and the super-rich will simply move their wealth or themselves off shore. Increased corporate taxation will simply stifle investment and innovation and, when they taxes get high enough, the companies – and their jobs – will simply move out of the UK .

The rich are usually paying for private healthcare and the NHS as well so paying twice.