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Thread: Millers won't wait for out-of-contract trio

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    Millers won't wait for out-of-contract trio


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    Is this agents messing about? Smallwood and Mattock want to stay, I'd imagine Wood does too but understandable he might need more to think about.

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    Regardless whether it's there agents or not these players must have been offered deals by RUFC that they can refuse.

    Smallwood was messed about last season by the club and we don't know how the discussions went when he was asked to go to Sc.unthorpe. It was about this time of year that he was getting ready for pre season training under his 4th manager 5th if you include Black.
    Does a leopard change its spots? Would you trust anything coming out of Rotherham Uited? Would you sign a reduced contract when you've set your life out having earned a salary and be asked to put that at risk without hearing what else is out there?

    I don't for for minute blame these players for holding out for what they can. The problems caused last season started at the top and stayed at the top until the end of the season.

    Where are the players who are to replace them? Where are the players coming from to play along side them? If these senior players are wanted then prove to them they are by offering the contracts! don't leave them with any doubt about staying. It has been said that players are buying into what Warne wants to do. Well by the look of this they bloody well haven't.

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    I don't not what the offer is or what they were on last season (not my business) but I do find it strange that they expected them to turn the first offer down and have now improved the offer.

    No ****ing wonder players don't want to come here.

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    If they dont sign it wont be a disaster, strong leadership Warney! give them a deadline, I cant remember an agent scoring a goal or saving a pen

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    Typical Paul Douglas.
    Why on earth would you make an offer to players that you EXPECT them to turn down.
    Absolutely bloody ridiculous and clearly the Technical Committee has learnt nothing from its previous mistakes.
    I must say my initial optimism about the new season is waning rapidly because clearly the club is wanting everything to be cheaper than cheap and that's utterly unrealistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frogmiller View Post
    Regardless whether it's there agents or not these players must have been offered deals by RUFC that they can refuse.

    Smallwood was messed about last season by the club and we don't know how the discussions went when he was asked to go to Sc.unthorpe. It was about this time of year that he was getting ready for pre season training under his 4th manager 5th if you include Black.
    Does a leopard change its spots? Would you trust anything coming out of Rotherham Uited? Would you sign a reduced contract when you've set your life out having earned a salary and be asked to put that at risk without hearing what else is out there?

    I don't for for minute blame these players for holding out for what they can. The problems caused last season started at the top and stayed at the top until the end of the season.

    Where are the players who are to replace them? Where are the players coming from to play along side them? If these senior players are wanted then prove to them they are by offering the contracts! don't leave them with any doubt about staying. It has been said that players are buying into what Warne wants to do. Well by the look of this they bloody well haven't.
    All I will say is Evo is still recruiting and he knows these players.

    Wonder what budget he's been given to recruit? tic toc as they say.

    On the other hand this is the time of close season where players and agents are probably on holiday so you'll probably hear things moving on from the end of next week. Agents will be flat out touting the players on their books to as many clubs as they can so they can rack up their top percentages.

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    I can understand, to some extent, the club wanting the best deal for Rotherham United but is the cheapest necessarily the best? Have we learnt nothing over the last months and years? How many deals have been scuppered by our own naivety and short-sightedness? How many players have walked away in frustration at our penny-pinching attempts to undercut the market, to devalue the product?

    We talk about ambition but where's the ambition in deliberately making ourselves uncompetitive, in failing to reward good service, in driving away those who genuinely want to play for the club?

    The basic philosophy of this football club needs to change, we need to take our heads out of the sand and look at what's happening around us before we find ourselves struggling at the foot of another division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gm_gm View Post
    I cant remember an agent scoring a goal or saving a pen
    Actually, Blackstock did score against Norwich away.!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashbynick View Post
    Actually, Blackstock did score against Norwich away.!
    A screamer!

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    ... and no doubt Millers won't factor the cost of replacing them into contract negotiations either. Save 10,000 on wages spend 200,000 in the transfer market. Good business!
    Last edited by leedsmiller; 20-05-2017 at 03:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leedsmiller View Post
    ... and no doubt Millers won't factor the cost of replacing them into contract negotiations either. Save 10,000 on wages spend 200,000 in the transfer market. Good business!
    We won't spend 200,000 in total on new signings this summer!!!

    It'll be free transfer old crocks galore or young loans who are no bloody good or why would their parent club be loaning them out in the first place?

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    Leeds....

    "Save 10,000 on wages spend 200,000 in the transfer market. Good business!"

    Have ever had a car until it's reached the point where it became financially unviable !

    The car needs: new brakes - pads - discs - clutch - timing belt - exhaust on last legs - bit of dark smoke on revving engine....this list goes on...

    And you pay all this a you get....a 15 / 20 year old car that's got the lifespan of a lemming.

    But the alternative.....major initial investment but ( if you get a computer game - sorry - computer program to help you ) you can buy a new car with far less "running problems"....lol

    You get: better performance - more reliability - and knowing the players we are talking about - cheaper running costs!

    Conclusion : Time for a change !

    The only reason to NOT change is that you don't pay any of the bills and run an old wreck into the ground....BUT ON MINIMUM WAGE. MATCH TO MATCH.

    That's basically why Stubbs wanted rid of Wood - Kelly - Halford last season.....they were costing alot put without the performance !

    He didn't have the budget to buy new so he brought in good cars but he was capable of "doing them up" himself...lol

    All this is just a year too late....but the right thing to do !

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    Seams to me we can't even sign the players we already have ,so what chance of signing others , promises promises ,what happened to the players all ready for signing last week ? Pull er finger out millers ,so much for early signings !

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    Quote Originally Posted by a123 View Post
    We won't spend 200,000 in total on new signings this summer!!!

    It'll be free transfer old crocks galore or young loans who are no bloody good or why would their parent club be loaning them out in the first place?
    Yeah, silly me, must have had a senior moment!

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    While Paul Douglas is running the contract side of the club, myself has a fan have no belief in the club going forward, get some one with football knowledge on the board.
    The technical board are at the kindergarden stage of football knowledge, while other clubs are far in front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ericsladkilnhurst View Post
    While Paul Douglas is running the contract side of the club, myself has a fan have no belief in the club going forward, get some one with football knowledge on the board.
    The technical board are at the kindergarden stage of football knowledge, while other clubs are far in front.

    Yes he's an obvious target for our difficulties in signing players, but in my experience players cost real money not imaginary money.

    He can't spend what we haven't got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Yes he's an obvious target for our difficulties in signing players, but in my experience players cost real money not imaginary money.

    He can't spend what we haven't got.
    Fair enough but the whole recruitment process at the club seems chaotic, even shambolic.
    What on earth was the point of putting new offers in front of the 3 out of contract players with the expectation that they would reject them? That comment came from Richie Barker and he's probably wondering what he's got himself into.
    An inadequate budget always gets trotted out as the reason for the shambles surrounding player recruitment but that's a convenient target and the real problems seem to go much deeper than that.
    I'm getting ready for an underwhelming transfer window........again.........even though TS claims we've got a top 5 budget 😕

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellowmiller View Post
    Fair enough but the whole recruitment process at the club seems chaotic, even shambolic.
    What on earth was the point of putting new offers in front of the 3 out of contract players with the expectation that they would reject them? That comment came from Richie Barker and he's probably wondering what he's got himself into.
    An inadequate budget always gets trotted out as the reason for the shambles surrounding player recruitment but that's a convenient target and the real problems seem to go much deeper than that.
    I'm getting ready for an underwhelming transfer window........again.........even though TS claims we've got a top 5 budget 😕
    Yep, like you I'm expecting to be seriously underwhelmed

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    He never actually says....."Top five" OF WHAT ?

    SMOKE & MIRRORS.....If that's an appropriate phrase.....

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