O/T Diane Abbott

[great_fire]

Furthermore, Andrew Neil is the tory attack dog, much like much of the media these days, you know this, because it's clear as day the bias against Corbyn. Having said that, did you see the Andrew Neil interview with Theresa May? there's no comparison, absolutely none, even with Neil doing the questioning, she blew it and is a disaster for you tories, and, once again, you know it.

Has attacked every single party leader I've seen on there, show is only 30 minutes so it's "attack, attack, attack".

You only think Corbyn was given a harder time because of your own personal bias.

[great_fire]

Not really though has he, same old mantra from those unable to conceive the fact that the Labour party is the only one that ACTUALLY represents the views of the majorityof Rotherham residents, historically.

Recently they've only represented the Muslim community, not coincidentally the postal vote came in in 2001 and the Muslim block vote, where the Imam or community leader decides who everyone votes for, became more important to them. So 96% of Rotherham population became less important than the Islamic 4%, with disastrous consequences for the young female population of the borough.

[millmoormagic]

Has attacked every single party leader I've seen on there, show is only 30 minutes so it's "attack, attack, attack".

You only think Corbyn was given a harder time because of your own personal bias.

And Corbyn wiped the floor with May, hurts you doesn't it.

[millmoormagic]

Recently they've only represented the Muslim community, not coincidentally the postal vote came in in 2001 and the Muslim block vote, where the Imam or community leader decides who everyone votes for, became more important to them. So 96% of Rotherham population became less important than the Islamic 4%, with disastrous consequences for the young female population of the borough.

Leave your hatred behind you fella, it's eating away, you're getting desperate.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

And Corbyn wiped the floor with May, hurts you doesn't it.

That's one of your funniest yet MMM

You're going to find it hard to improve on that one.

[rolymiller]

Andrew Neil unbiased? What a load of bollax greatfire. As I speak he is chairman of the press holdings group which owns the Daily Torygraph and the Spectator. He is hardly likely to be unbiased is he? He should not be allowed anywhere near a tv camera when there is a democratic general election about to be had. I am pretty sure as well he has a lot of journalistic connections with that well known left winger rupee baby. Get a grip greatfire you are losing it...

[Lasterman]

Not what the polls are starting to say lasterman. Like I said on another thread if the young voters turn out it could be very close. In any case are you saying may would be a stronger pm? She won't even face Corbyn head to head in a tv debate and totally cocked up on her own manifesto. This is the woman who is going to sort us out after brexit. Weak as piss.

The polls are reflecting the fact that if you tell enough daft people that they're going to get a lot more free stuff that greedy rich people will pay for, they'll vote for you. Fortunately, in the end, there will be enough sensible people who realise that for all her faults, May and the Tories are the only viable alternative at the moment.

[rolymiller]

No millionaire has ever made money without workers - unless they win it or nick it of course. The bankers sort of come into the second category..oh and the fat cats who pay themselves what they want in times of austerity..who pays for them then? Yep us silly buggers at the bottom...

I presume you have a few bob yourself to conserve? Otherwise whats the point in voting tory?

[Lasterman]

No millionaire has ever made money without workers - unless they win it or nick it of course. The bankers sort of come into the second category..oh and the fat cats who pay themselves what they want in times of austerity..who pays for them then? Yep us silly buggers at the bottom...

I presume you have a few bob yourself to conserve? Otherwise whats the point in voting tory?

Well if your first statement is true, I'd argue that no 'worker' has made a reasonable living without 'millionaires' (or at least people of enterprise) to create the environment where surplus's can be made. Hit those people hard enough and they'll bugger off. What happens then? Someone once said 'there's no such thing as a free lunch'. It's been attributed to many people over the years but Jeremy Corbyn isn't one of then.

[a123]

The entire premise of the labour party's manifesto being fully costed is that nobody will change their behaviours as a result of their regressive tax policies.

For example 10 people all earning £90,000 per year will each pay 5p in the £ on their top £10,000 earnings generating £500 each or £5,000 in total.

If just one of these chooses to instigate a salary sacrifice on these earnings and elects to pay the £10,000 into their pensions instead, which is perfectly legal, the exchequer will lose the full 45p income tax and 9p in National Insurance a loss in revenue of £5,400.

Hence the increase in taxation generates nothing, if anything they collect less than previously.

The top 5% of society plus the big corporations know how to play the system to their advantage so it's nowhere near as simple as we can generate £x by upping general tax rates.

That's on top of the fact that the IFS estimate there is already a £9bn hole in Labour's calculations without factoring in any of the above behaviours.