Reply With QuoteOriginally Posted by lbj
Not sure its the tariffs that are the problem as much as the border bureaucracy that will hold goods up. But guess the same principle applies to both sides and you'd hope a deal can be made...
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Nothing to do with the opposition - she didn't have to call this election - entirely a mess of her own making
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Not sure its the tariffs that are the problem as much as the border bureaucracy that will hold goods up. But guess the same principle applies to both sides and you'd hope a deal can be made...
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Big problem, 45% of British exports go to the EU, but the average EU country only has closer to 10% on average of its imports coming from the UK.
The impact of trade defecits is massively diluted for the 27 members. For us it is a huge part of our economy.
Trade barriers means it will be more competitive for those remaining 27 EU countries to import those British imports from within the EU. It could even give them a boost.
This is why it's bonkers people think we are in a strong negotiating position, or mindlessly spout this drivel that we'll be fine without them. Simple maths tells a different story. We're playing poker with a 2/7 offsuit.
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We've got our country back though fella.....
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Only the Labour Party can be trusted throughout this process , they are the ones who have the UK population's welfare at the top of their agenda .
The Tories are simply using brexit for their own ideology and see at as a opportunity to opt out of human rights and any other legislation that stalls making profit .
Recent events in west london tell you everything you need to know about the tories and what is important and what isn't .
Corbyn needs to listen to the centre of his party and get behind remaining in the single market .
First and formost it will protect jobs and aid the economy massively , secondly it will unite the party and heal the divisions and thirdly it will see the tories crushed at the ballot box anytime they have the minerals to call one .
With the remainers on board and the progress from the recent election it would simply be a question of how big labours majority would be .
Given all of the above the future would look far rosier than the farce who are trying to govern us now for their own ideology .
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Let's be honest here. People's view of of a "soft" Brexit is pretty much the same as us still being in the EU but without having a seat at the table. You cannot have a soft Brexit (free trade) without having the free movement of people.
Is this government or a labour government going to continue with the free movement of people to the UK? No, unless they want to be voted out in the preceding weeks/months and they want Mr Farage to become the leader of a rejuvenated party and gain much more popularity.
A "soft" Brexit cannot happen.
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Shark your post assumes everyone voted to leave the EU which as you know was far from the case .
48% voted to remain , not a winning number in the referendum but none the less a significant number of the electorate .
We can make a success of brexit and rid ourselves of brussels bureaucracy but we need to remain in the single market , yes indeed free movement comes with that access , the economy is too linked to this market and it's impossible to make a case for operating outside of it and the country prospering in the future .
I wish it wasn't so myself but those are the cards we have in our hand .
If we see migration as a problem and yes that's not without foundation operating outside of the single market is a bigger one .
Got to bite the bullet on this I'm afraid , the EU have us by the bollox .
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We're 'playing' with a £60 Billion trade deficit. Play your percentage games as much as you want.
A perfect opportunity to redefine and bring a little pride back to this country and looks like we'll bottle it.
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Wow a bit of posturing by the EU unelected dictator Junker and all is lost.
Your offering equal rights to UK citizens no we want better than that, is this guy for real he wants EU citizens to have better rights than UK citizens.
Did you really think everything would be sorted after 1 meeting and 1 summit in the first week of negotiations?
Get ready for months of similar posturing and negative statements before we actually start getting anywhere.
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From what I can gather since the election of Macron is that Europe will become more dominated by France and Germany. Britain will always be on the outside of any future direction of Europe regardless.
These two countries will dictate what is going to happen and will muscle the other countries to comply. The problems in Greece were caused by the acceptence of them by Europe into the Euro.
Greese tried to stand up for itself but were never in a position to do so. They were steam rollered into agreeing to the plans of austerity imposed by Germany and the rest.
Britain is the only country that can stand alone out of all the EU countries.
The Remoaners that want another referendum will cause mayhem for the future of Britain in Europe. Britain would never be taken seriously if they don't follow through with anything but a hard Brexit. I don't think that a soft exit be beneficial to anyone.
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