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Thread: Is it just me being impatient?

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    Is it just me being impatient?

    Long before the season ended, in April, Ferguson was talking about looking at next year's team implying a lot of early activity for good players from top clubs.

    He has dropped Keegan, McCormick, Pugh, McSheffrey and Taylor-Sinclair. In addition he has saved on salaries for Evina and Lund, and now he might do a deal to clear Etheridge off his books. That's 8 players potentially gone, with additionally Middleton still to find another club. He is a good player and no reason why a league two club won't want him.

    So far we have Niall Mason, Danny Andrew, Alex Kiwomya and Ben Whiteman in. That's a shortfall of 4 or 5 players. I see a lot of activity in the transfer market but not much for Rovers.

    May, Mandeville and Beestin may be out of their depth in league one, Williams dried up last season and Marquis is playing hard ball over his contract and could yet go.

    Is it not time to see some constructive activity in the transfer market or has Ferguson's budget run out already? I know there is plenty of time to go until the window closes but aren't the best players being snapped up by our competitors already?

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    I see it as the "Loan" players out will be being paid up to 50% of salary by DRFC, ( not including Lund, as i dont suppose he would be on more than 500 a week )so if earning 2K a week each DRFC are saving 2K. You dont get much of a player for 2K a week. To top that off Andy williams NOT going has cost DRFC more than that. There is also the chance that any of the "Loan" players COULD get injured and loan then cancelled, which means DRFC are footing the wages for rest of campaign.
    I believe the "Board" will sanction a player or two as permanent to DRFC, but its a case of right fee and right salary level.
    Seemingly DF has missed out on 3 players ( two i believe to be the Guys Barnsley aquired from Palace or Forest Green, Left back / centre back ), i guess all 3 were able to get higher salaries elsewhere.
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    No SilverTop, I don't think you are being impatient. By promising to settle his new squad before the start of this year's friendlies, Ferguson raised expectations. Unfortunately the realisation has fallen short. He has released 3 experienced players (Keegan, McSheffrey and Taylor-Sinclair) and Middleton is on the transfer list. All 4 players have previous League One experience.

    By all accounts, he has missed out on 3 strikers, and has had to withdraw Williams from the transfer list. That makes Williams his fourth choice. He has also missed out on other targets. He has brought in 3 players permanently and 1 on loan. But none of them have previous League One experience.

    All of this sounds less like squad strengthening, and more like cost reduction. Indeed, he has stated that some of his targets have been lost for lack of funds. The boards 'generous budget' is looking less generous now.

    On paper we have a weaker squad than last season. It could be argued that we also have a weaker squad than the previous season when we were relegated. As always, we will have to wait and see.

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    It may be co-incidence, but the bookies on Oddschecker have dropped us from 11th to 14th in League One. Clearly the bookies are lowering their expectations of what Rovers will achieve. Personally, I think Marquis's procrastination at signing up doesn't help and is distracting DF. Lack of activity/failure to make more quality signings is cause for concern. Maybe we have lost out on some preferred signings, but still need a plan B executing. I didn't know both teams share the cost of loan players, and I have no idea what players get paid as it is not public information, but I can do the sums to know we need more players of a high quality to compete comfortably and we seem to be currently losing out.

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    I said on the 9th that “That's a shortfall of 4 or 5 players. I see a lot of activity in the transfer market but not much for Rovers”. Now Kiwomya has an ankle injury and Steven Taylor has slipped away. It should be obvious that we need a stronger team for league one than we had in league two where we came in third after a pathetic end of season performance. I see little to fill me with confidence so far with a week to go to the start of the season.

    I don’t know if issues around Dick Watson has affected this year’s budget. It’s sad to lose such a great supporter and few will disagree that Dick did a massive amount for the stability of the club. My condolences to Dick’s family. But I am now convinced the budget is a major issue this year as Ferguson has done so little and left it all too late now.

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    Of the last 10 games we have played, which includes friendlies, we have only won against Armthorpe, Tadcaster and Guiseley. No wonder we have now dropped to 15th on Oddschecker. I can't say I have seen anything yet to inspire me with optimism as we close on the first game of the season.

    The last time we faced Gillingham we lost one and drew one, and we are sure to lose to Bradford in the cup and Blackburn in the second league game. Happy days ahead but here's hoping I am wrong.

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    Is Donny's 5 year plan to get into the championship via league two again? If it is then we are on target. Clearly we are in a relegation battle and Ferguson does not have the management skills or the authority over the players to get us out of this mess. He has too few options to dig us out of this hole.

    No doubt some fans will say things will still come good even though we are a quarter of the season gone and others will argue problems with players and formations, but the facts remain the same ... we are in trouble and I, for one, can't get excited following Rovers right now.

    We are no better off than when Dickov was here and he was sacked. Is this what the board really want for Rovers?

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    I don't know how you can say that SilverTop, after yet another clean sheet !!!!!!!!
    Oh, sorry, I was forgetting - it was a clean sheet at the wrong end

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    I really don't know what Ferguson can do to get the forwards to score or our defenders to keep the ball out. Even sacking Ferguson will just give another manager the excuse that the players are Ferguson's and not his. We are in the same loop as two years ago.

    Oh by the way, congrats Scarjo on another great week for you. You really are uncatchable and I don't know how you do it. Well done.

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    Thanks for the compliments SilverTop, the secret is....

    ...LUCK

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    Three words - discipline, consistency, concentration. All three are lacking.

    Ferguson often says that they don't do on the pitch what he has trained them to do. For example, why on earth is Butler so often up front. It is absurd that in a recent match he was declared offside in the opposition penalty area.

    If Ferguson keeps messing about with different formations and even changing them in the middle of a match, it is no wonder the players don't know where they are or are supposed to be. That may be OK for Premier teams, but we are not Premier material.

    Concentration is obvious. Conceding two goals in quick succession, occasionally without having touched the ball before the second goal.

    We are more or less back in the table where we were when Ferguson joined us. He has achieved nothing.

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    Just got back apart from the two goals there was no difference two poor sides lack lustre performance created enough chances again fergie must now be looking over his shoulder he has been in the game long enough two league wins since we beat Mansfield last season is not good

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    I would be delighted if we were in the Championship. I would be very happy if we were just in the top half of league one. I would be happy if we had a balanced team that was consistent and played well all of the time. But there is nothing to be happy about because we are none of the above and I can barely see who we can predict a win against based on how we are playing right now. Attendances can only drop as off the team fail to deliver time and time again.

    Since Mansfield, as you mentioned lifelong, we have played 16 league games, won 2, drawn 4, lost 10.
    How can the club expect to keep fans on board with a record like that?

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    Well, another disastrous day. And the usual comments from Ferguson. He and the players are all saying how disappointed they are in the performance. So what's new. We hear it week after week, but nothing changes. We are one place even further down the table. Just two home wins out of eight. Where will it all end? Is it going to be like this for the rest of the season?
    As I said at the end of September, discipline, consistency, concentration. All three are lacking.

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    Since Ferguson arrived we went down a division and come back up. This season we have won 4, drawn 3 and lost 8. Is that the record of a successful manager? Not in my opinion. Are we supposed to be content with an unsuccessful manager? Not in my opinion. At Christmas, at the very latest, either the board need to cough up for new players or a new manager, otherwise we will be a relegation battle all season. Clearly something is not working whether it is Ferguson's style, formation or the players that cannot cope in this league. Change is desperately needed as we are no better off than when we had Dickov in charge. Even the most loyal Fergie fans must have some doubts that he cannot motivate the players. All that matters is getting up the table one way or another and it takes more than blame to do that. We need changes because we cannot live with this misery all season.

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    If we can lose so badly at home to Walsall I can't see us picking up more than 1 point in the next 4 games against Bury (A), Rotherham (H), Fleetwood (A), Wigan (A). By that point how many fans will be happy? Even before we do the predictions I will be going for a 1-1 draw against Bury and losses in the next 3 games based on current performance.

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    Got to go iam sorry but that’s the game we’re in results count

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    Add ‎naivety to the list of repetitive weaknesses that the players seem incapable of overcoming. And judging from match reports, training must include practice hitting the bar and the post, as they seem to be doing this with alarming frequency. Meanwhile, a bit further up the road, as if to add insult to injury, Huddersfield are taking Manchester United to the cleaners...

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    IMO. Let’s get to the point. I only say this because I care.

    If we don’t have any significant changes at Christmas we will be facing relegation at the end of the season as we always run out of steam in the second half.

    I do believe the players have the ability to be mid-table but even if Fergie stays it is he who needs to change. He needs to:-
    . work out his best XI and stick with them for continuity,
    . make players on the bench fight to get onto the pitch,
    . stop messing about with formations as they are mostly young lads not premiership players,
    . use players where they best fit for their natural abilities instead of making them fit into “his style”,
    . stop calling them “the lad” as they do have name,
    . encourage and support the players like the good manager he should be,
    . brief players on a strategy before the game and leave them to get on with it, and review the game afterwards. How can players play at their best when they are constantly being shouted at, micro-managed and in fear of making mistakes?

    Where is the fun in the game these days? I have said before that John Ryan leaving the club took the heart out of the club. The board is distinctly absent. David Blunt and Andy Watson certainly don’t have the personality of John Ryan. Fergie is condescending and petulant and he removes anyone who argues with him. With more fun on the pitch and a winning streak by the players even the fans would have more fun. If Fergie can't change he needs to go and make room for a manager who can get things right.

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    So he will survive another few weeks.

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