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Thread: The Leonard Saga

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Longshortandtall View Post
    Now saying he's withdrawn transfer request after talking to Chairman. Time to move on. Southend chairman has a reputation for over valuing players and losing out in the long run. Having said that shows if you really want a player to stay you don't have to cave in to the first offer received, Mr McCabe take note.

    Some lessons for us to learn on negotiating for players. The first bid of 250k was too low and no doubt pissed off Southend. Its taken us a month and 3 bids to get to 500k and yet we've now apparently gone out and put in a first bid for a player of lesser ability at Oxford for 500k as a starting point. Can't help thinking if we'd done the same a month ago for Leonard, before Dack was sold for 750k and the Walker sale, we'd have got this deal over the line by now.
    We must be fairly decent and have some idea at this buying players lark,we have successfully bought 5 this summer,I say carry on trying to get value for our money

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlockD View Post
    We must be fairly decent and have some idea at this buying players lark,we have successfully bought 5 this summer,I say carry on trying to get value for our money
    Feel the same about this - we seem to have done some pretty decent business this summer and not spent a lot - we're not going to succeed with every target but at least we're not paying over the odds from a position of weakness.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by BlockD View Post
    We must be fairly decent and have some idea at this buying players lark,we have successfully bought 5 this summer,I say carry on trying to get value for our money
    Pleased with what we've brought in so far Block D. There's a difference between getting value for money and undervaluing players though. I think we've got this one wrong, we can't get them right all the time but for me Leonard would provide a missing link in the team box to box midfielder who can protect the defence and at an age that provides sell on potential. Only 1 year older than Lundstram and offers more so why do we make a first offer of 500k for one and only half that amount for the other?

  4. #24
    We need to be getting this over the line now. Otherwise lets move on. Seems silly for the sake of 250K.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by PaleThinBoy View Post
    We need to be getting this over the line now. Otherwise lets move on. Seems silly for the sake of 250K.
    Agreed. We either rate him enough to spend the dough or we don't and we move on. Simple for me. Also the players being mentioned if we don't get him are not getting me excited at all. I cant see us going for Reeves. Not good enough. Lundstrum...jury would be out for a while.

    Surely there must be a midfield gem festering in Manure, Chelski or Arsene Wenger Fc's Squads???????

  6. #26
    Social media is awash with wannabe managers who think they know better than a man with 20 yrs experience and who has never been sacked and always left clubs and squads in a better state than he found them,I've taken to asking these experts how many promotions they have to their name and without getting any reply I'll say I'll trust the man who's been there and done it then

  7. #27
    i agree with you on this one bulmer got 100per cent confidence in chris still think there will be 1 or 2 big incomings in next 3 weeks

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by bulmer1889 View Post
    Social media is awash with wannabe managers who think they know better than a man with 20 yrs experience and who has never been sacked and always left clubs and squads in a better state than he found them,I've taken to asking these experts how many promotions they have to their name and without getting any reply I'll say I'll trust the man who's been there and done it then
    Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Aint that what a forum is for? People will have diff views on players coming in and out of the club.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by shorehamoldboy View Post
    i agree with you on this one bulmer got 100per cent confidence in chris still think there will be 1 or 2 big incomings in next 3 weeks
    What do you class as a "big incoming"?

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by boltonblade View Post
    What do you class as a "big incoming"?
    2 free transfers or loans.UTCB

  11. #31
    another striker for one think hanson will be offloaded one more centre back and a midfielder plus back up keeper of course

  12. #32
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    Well well! The plot thickens

    The Independent reports:

    "But Leonard is still determined to leave Southend, despite the chairman’s claims, and he has not withdrawn his transfer request."


    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a7847626.html

  13. #33
    Their chairman needs to stop being an arse and let this happen. Best for both clubs that this is done now rather than the 11th hour.

  14. #34
    Reports suggesting Southend turned down a bid from millwall for leonard

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by bulmer1889 View Post
    Reports suggesting Southend turned down a bid from millwall for leonard
    When we played Southend away,did you notice this Leonard much?

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by bulmer1889 View Post
    Reports suggesting Southend turned down a bid from millwall for leonard
    I reckon this Leonard "chase" is just a smoke screen,we're really after Kante.UTCB

  17. #37
    Can't say as I did m8 there was one in the middle that took my eye can't say for certain it was him tho

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by bulmer1889 View Post
    Can't say as I did m8 there was one in the middle that took my eye can't say for certain it was him tho
    What a pair of Mr Magoo's you 2 are. UTCB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blade for Life View Post
    Their chairman needs to stop being an arse and let this happen. Best for both clubs that this is done now rather than the 11th hour.
    Why should he,that is like saying your chairman should stop being an arse and let brooks leave to intrested clubs.

  20. #40
    Fair point I'm sure we wished KK. Had put more of a fight up in some sales (most of them actually)

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