Silly money ?

[Ram59]

Don't bring me into it. Given up with you two...two of the best posters just constantly and pointlessly chipping away at each other nowadays while the rest just can't resist having a go at the resident scapegoat...who Swale can't seem to decide whether to defend or destroy, and who is no longer actually doing that much wrong as far as I can see.
Wake me up when the forum has something worth listening to.

For once, I agree with you. That's why I haven't bothered posting lately.

[Andy_Faber]

Don't bring me into it. Given up with you two...two of the best posters just constantly and pointlessly chipping away at each other nowadays while the rest just can't resist having a go at the resident scapegoat...who Swale can't seem to decide whether to defend or destroy, and who is no longer actually doing that much wrong as far as I can see.
Wake me up when the forum has something worth listening to.

You're right re Swale and I, and I'll do the right thing for everyone's sake and not comment on Swales' non-footy posts (where we often agree/see each others' point ayway) in future.

Be nice if others followed that lead and eased off on the R4J-flaming

[ramAnag]

For once, I agree with you. That's why I haven't bothered posting lately.

I actually agree with you about many things...we just have differing political views.

[swaledale]

You have to get used to being patronised when being talked down to by Swale, Andy

when you jump in with an opinion that has no relation to reality and merely states a simplistic approach with no regard to the complexity of the world in which live, that ignores the facts then you can't expect to be taken seriously?

I feel for politicians, they have to provide simple answers that most people can understand, when the reality is there is no simple answer and the very people who carp at them are people who would not stick their necks on the line in any event, but fire off simple bar room solutions that don't stand up to any reasonable scrutiny.

[swaledale]

You're still being oh so coy, what's this inconvenient truth you rattle on about?

And don't start with that 'research has shown' **** or we will be off on one again with Ramanag trying to referee. You need to cease and desist with this 'I'm right because I have a placard' approach if you want respect

And 'people' DON'T stick to views or opinions, I think your unrest is probably due to the fact that many who HAVE changed their opinions have edged towards the less tolerant end of the spectrum, as have my own as it happens. So on that one you are wrong

My unrest as you put it, but more accurately my incredulity is at being able to defend or even state an opinion about a topic which the person giving the opinion clearly hasn't got a basic understanding of.

Nor i am I wrong that it is a well researched fact that people will blindly stick to an opinion or a belief they hold even when its proven beyond reasonable doubt that the opinion or belief that they have is wrong.

If you don't believe me google "Why do people stick to their opinion even when proven to be wrong" there is plenty of evidence to back me up, or read a book entitled "You are not so smart" there is also a blog, which is very illuminating.

As for respect, why would I crave the respect of someone whose answer to a historical perspective, that but for 22 miles of sea, the UK would have gone the same way as France, was to rumble on about being unpatriotic and disrespecting the generation that fought in WW2?

Especially when i made no reference to the efforts or bravery of those that fought, but was merely referring to the factors that assisted the UK from remaining free of german occupation.

[swaledale]

Don't bring me into it. Given up with you two...two of the best posters just constantly and pointlessly chipping away at each other nowadays while the rest just can't resist having a go at the resident scapegoat...who Swale can't seem to decide whether to defend or destroy, and who is no longer actually doing that much wrong as far as I can see.
Wake me up when the forum has something worth listening to.

You will be asleep a long time because this Forum is becoming a ****ing bore.

[roger_ramjet]

Your post where you agreed with Rog's very simplistic view on the matter!

I have to keep it simple so you can understand it, Swale 😁

[ramAnag]

You will be asleep a long time because this Forum is becoming a ****ing bore.

As ever, I actually agree with much of what you say Swale. Unfortunately your arrogance, inconsistency and chest thumping attitude of 'I'm Swale therefore I'm right' are currently going a long way to making it the '****ing bore you describe'.

[mistaram]

Agree

[Romanis]

I agree that you can agree although others might disagree that I should agree although I very much disagree with any suggestions that I should disagree when I had stated I wanted to agree.

I hope I'm not being disagreeable.