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Thread: mccann/haber

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    mccann/haber

    How did McCann get Haber back onside to put in his best ever performance in a Dee shirt?

    Good management, players determination to stick one up the man? A bit of both?

    He didn't duck the question when fat sally asked him on Bt sport.

    Don't think there was any coming in from the cold with ph or The Bomber, em thinking ggh and noahs best pal.

    So good management? Player desire? Lucky management? ****e opposition?

    Em going A & B with B being being dragged oot o him by Mccann.

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    What did mcoist ask and what did McCann reply?

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    Quote Originally Posted by legendno9 View Post
    What did mcoist ask and what did McCann reply?
    Cant mind word for word but roughly

    Mcoist asked why Haber hadn't been playing when he cud play like that

    Nm replied that he didn't mind telling folk him and Marcus had issues/run ins but I know what he can do and I get so frustrated.

    I wanted him to ram my words down my throat and show he was worthy of a place. I'm delighted for him.

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    imo NM managed to get the message across that the team could play without Haber, using Moussa instead. When Moussa got injured NM had already got Haber to realise that he could not be guaranteed his place and the rest is history.

    Hopefully this shows the potential quality of NM and a degree of sophistication in managing players that PH didn't have. Wouldn't agree that Bomber had the same weakness but I don't know who Noah's best pal is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    imo NM managed to get the message across that the team could play without Haber, using Moussa instead. When Moussa got injured NM had already got Haber to realise that he could not be guaranteed his place and the rest is history.

    Hopefully this shows the potential quality of NM and a degree of sophistication in managing players that PH didn't have. Wouldn't agree that Bomber had the same weakness but I don't know who Noah's best pal is!
    I've loads of best pals but no impeccable sources

    The fact der bomber has never been a 'manager' since he was bulleted from us speaks volumes.

    No one knows what happened with GGH, der bomber was just being a pryck and showing complete lack of any management nous and NH just thought Habers application could be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    imo NM managed to get the message across that the team could play without Haber, using Moussa instead. When Moussa got injured NM had already got Haber to realise that he could not be guaranteed his place and the rest is history.

    Hopefully this shows the potential quality of NM and a degree of sophistication in managing players that PH didn't have. Wouldn't agree that Bomber had the same weakness but I don't know who Noah's best pal is!
    I was thinking of big rab the car share friend��

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    I've loads of best pals but no impeccable sources

    The fact der bomber has never been a 'manager' since he was bulleted from us speaks volumes.

    No one knows what happened with GGH, der bomber was just being a pryck and showing complete lack of any management nous and NH just thought Habers application could be better.
    Em just jealous that meh best pal isnae as glamorous��

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    I've loads of best pals but no impeccable sources

    The fact der bomber has never been a 'manager' since he was bulleted from us speaks volumes.

    No one knows what happened with GGH, der bomber was just being a pryck and showing complete lack of any management nous and NH just thought Habers application could be better.
    Good management from McCann then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    I was thinking of big rab the car share friend��
    Forgot about that. I would have to mark that down as an example of caveman management style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Good management from McCann then?
    Its just what you'd expect from a manager.
    Last edited by noahrab; 11-08-2017 at 12:40 PM.

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    The difference is NM acted in a way that had a very positive result for the club. I'm hopeful that this shows him in a very good light and it will help him with managing our team to success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Its just what you'd expect from a manager.
    Could this be a sealion speaking through gritted teeth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Could this be a sealion speaking through gritted teeth?
    OYF im away to get the popcorn in,this has the makings of a long thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    The difference is NM acted in a way that had a very positive result for the club. I'm hopeful that this shows him in a very good light and it will help him with managing our team to success.
    NM acted in a way the fans were desperate for in that particular game - physical and direct against a very weak opponent i.e. putting in Haber. This was forced on him from what I can see, so jury still out for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taintedice View Post
    NM acted in a way the fans were desperate for in that particular game - physical and direct against a very weak opponent i.e. putting in Haber. This was forced on him from what I can see, so jury still out for me.
    His hand was forced somewhat but if he was a stubborn bugger he wuda went one up top, still had to do what was best for the team and he made that decision.

    As an aside I think ill find it much easier to forgive mccanns mistakes when he makes them as he comes across so well and so clearly when discussing the team.

    There seemed to be a huge togetherness amongst the team on weds Tha hasn't been evident since NM first couple of games.

    That in itself wont make you a good manager but fostering this "why not Dundee", "winners mentality" wont do any harm.

    I always got the feeling ph was in it for ph, I sense off McCann hes in it for the club and personal ambition maybe a distant 2nd.

    Just my opinion though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCram View Post
    Could this be a sealion speaking through gritted teeth?
    Oh god you've used the s word.��

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaded View Post
    OYF im away to get the popcorn in,this has the makings of a long thread
    Awe, got a wee stiffy?

    Bless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    His hand was forced somewhat but if he was a stubborn bugger he wuda went one up top, still had to do what was best for the team and he made that decision.

    As an aside I think ill find it much easier to forgive mccanns mistakes when he makes them as he comes across so well and so clearly when discussing the team.

    There seemed to be a huge togetherness amongst the team on weds Tha hasn't been evident since NM first couple of games.

    That in itself wont make you a good manager but fostering this "why not Dundee", "winners mentality" wont do any harm.

    I always got the feeling ph was in it for ph, I sense off McCann hes in it for the club and personal ambition maybe a distant 2nd.

    Just my opinion though.
    Don't get this 'managers in it for themselves' nonsense.

    Managers ultimately are only successful if their team is successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Don't get this 'managers in it for themselves' nonsense.

    Managers ultimately are only successful if their team is successful.
    Its just a feeling I got off McCann, like his managerial path had been mapped oot plus always trying to see things in players others couldn't.

    Example I don't get the feeling Brenda is using tic as a stepping stone but got the feeling waghorn was.


    Oops that shud read ph.

    Ffs cracking up meant warburton
    Last edited by Returnofrros; 11-08-2017 at 02:19 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    His hand was forced somewhat but if he was a stubborn bugger he wuda went one up top, still had to do what was best for the team and he made that decision.

    As an aside I think ill find it much easier to forgive mccanns mistakes when he makes them as he comes across so well and so clearly when discussing the team.

    There seemed to be a huge togetherness amongst the team on weds Tha hasn't been evident since NM first couple of games.

    That in itself wont make you a good manager but fostering this "why not Dundee", "winners mentality" wont do any harm.

    I always got the feeling ph was in it for ph, I sense off McCann hes in it for the club and personal ambition maybe a distant 2nd.

    Just my opinion though.
    His team against Ross County smacked of I know best. He didn't. Not to say fans know best, but we're not mugs, we know what we're seeing. The team which started the season proper would have struggled on Wednesday, imo, could have been ET and pens. My mood lifted tremendously when I saw El Bak and Haber were starting. I expect to see them both on Saturday, much tougher game as well.

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