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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTopMan View Post
    Just one league title don't impress me much either.

    Oh and using stuff off the Talksport site? Well numpty check this off the same site.

    Top 30 biggest clubs in Britain ranked.

    West Brom 16th

    West Ham 10th.

    Unlucky.


    https://talksport.com/football/top-3...1224221224?p=0
    The night we gave your so called world champions a football lesson, to win the League cup 66
    I was there could have been 10.
    Big club my arse.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PTH5d6C1kM

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    [QUOTE=Leicesterbaggie;38630029]
    Quote Originally Posted by ImTopMan View Post
    Just one league title don't impress me much either.

    Oh and using stuff off the Talksport site? Well numpty check this off the same site.

    Top 30 biggest clubs in Britain ranked.

    West Brom 16th

    West Ham 10th.

    Unlucky.


    https://talksport.com/football/top-3...1224221224?p=0[/QUOTE

    I'd be very interested to know what criteria they used. It certainly can't be anything to do with success in the game. Any tables that I have seen have West Ham always behind Albion.
    How abart this for a stat my old China
    WBA Champions of England 1
    West Ham United Champions Of England 0

    Never in the history of our Football Club has our home games been delayed to let a Somalian run round our pitch.

    Legends in your own lunch time you lot.

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by talkSAFT View Post
    All-time League placings upto 2017

    No consideration is given to points accumulated, games won, or goals scored.
    Based purely on League position since The Football League's inauguration (1888) these are the top 40 Clubs.

    The League champions are awarded 92 League pts,
    whilst the bottom team in League 2 are awarded 1 League point.

    (Between 1924 and 1950, there were only 88 Clubs in the League,
    and so the League champions gained 88 League pts.
    Between 1888 (12 Clubs) and 1923 (86 Clubs) there were varying
    nos of League members. The Champs get 12 pts (for example) for
    winning the 1888-89 season,
    When there were 2 Division 3s (North & South), the winners would have
    each received 49 pts, whilst the runners-up both got 47.)

    1 Liverpool 8,203
    2 Arsenal 8,153
    3 Everton 8,067
    4 Manchester United 7,987
    5 Aston Villa 7,847
    6 Manchester City 7,571
    7 Newcastle United 7,517
    8 Tottenham Hotspur 7,396
    9 Sunderland 7,387
    10 Chelsea 7,356
    11 West Bromwich Albion 7,118
    12 Blackburn Rovers 6,908
    13 Derby County 6,817
    14 Wolverhampton Wanderers 6,742
    15 Sheffield Wednesday 6,739
    16 Middlesbrough 6,705
    17 Bolton Wanderers 6,697
    18 Sheffield United 6,620
    19 West Ham United 6,595
    20 Birmingham City 6,584
    21 Leicester City 6,545
    22 Nottingham Forest 6,529
    23 Leeds United 6,505
    24 Stoke City 6,421
    25 Burnley 6,044
    26 Southampton 5,953
    27 Preston North End 5,668
    28 Portsmouth 5,380
    29 Fulham 5,310
    30 Huddersfield Town 5,276
    31 Charlton Athletic 5,240
    32 Blackpool 5,095
    33 Coventry City 5,068
    34 Norwich City 4,900
    35 Queens Park Rangers 4,734
    36 Ipswich Town 4,713
    37 Cardiff City 4,544
    38 Crystal Palace 4,537
    39 Bristol City 4,406
    40 Barnsley 4,343

    We're 523 pts above the Cockneys. To put that into perspective, they need to finish a full 20 places above us for the next 26 years before I would consider calling them a bigger Club, and both TopMan and myself will probably be Uncle Ned by then.
    If they pull this off Talksaft I doubt I'll be around to worry about it Also 2 of the goals that won the World Cup were iffy. One didn't cross the line, the other there were people on the pitch and the game should have been stopped. Spammers didn't win us the World Cup, the ref did!

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    West'Ham's'highest'ever'finish'is'3rd.Wow
    Even'with'Moore,Peters'and'Hurst'they'usually'fini shed'below'us
    They'are'a'big'club'in'the'East'End'mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by talkSAFT View Post
    All-time League placings upto 2017

    No consideration is given to points accumulated, games won, or goals scored.
    Based purely on League position since The Football League's inauguration (1888) these are the top 40 Clubs.

    The League champions are awarded 92 League pts,
    whilst the bottom team in League 2 are awarded 1 League point.

    (Between 1924 and 1950, there were only 88 Clubs in the League,
    and so the League champions gained 88 League pts.
    Between 1888 (12 Clubs) and 1923 (86 Clubs) there were varying
    nos of League members. The Champs get 12 pts (for example) for
    winning the 1888-89 season,
    When there were 2 Division 3s (North & South), the winners would have
    each received 49 pts, whilst the runners-up both got 47.)

    1 Liverpool 8,203
    2 Arsenal 8,153
    3 Everton 8,067
    4 Manchester United 7,987
    5 Aston Villa 7,847
    6 Manchester City 7,571
    7 Newcastle United 7,517
    8 Tottenham Hotspur 7,396
    9 Sunderland 7,387
    10 Chelsea 7,356
    11 West Bromwich Albion 7,118
    12 Blackburn Rovers 6,908
    13 Derby County 6,817
    14 Wolverhampton Wanderers 6,742
    15 Sheffield Wednesday 6,739
    16 Middlesbrough 6,705
    17 Bolton Wanderers 6,697
    18 Sheffield United 6,620
    19 West Ham United 6,595
    20 Birmingham City 6,584
    21 Leicester City 6,545
    22 Nottingham Forest 6,529
    23 Leeds United 6,505
    24 Stoke City 6,421
    25 Burnley 6,044
    26 Southampton 5,953
    27 Preston North End 5,668
    28 Portsmouth 5,380
    29 Fulham 5,310
    30 Huddersfield Town 5,276
    31 Charlton Athletic 5,240
    32 Blackpool 5,095
    33 Coventry City 5,068
    34 Norwich City 4,900
    35 Queens Park Rangers 4,734
    36 Ipswich Town 4,713
    37 Cardiff City 4,544
    38 Crystal Palace 4,537
    39 Bristol City 4,406
    40 Barnsley 4,343

    We're 523 pts above the Cockneys. To put that into perspective, they need to finish a full 20 places above us for the next 26 years before I would consider calling them a bigger Club, and both TopMan and myself will probably be Uncle Ned by then.
    Fair play to you talkSAFT, where dya pull that haymaker from, end of discussion.
    Surprised man utd were so low and how high the Villa are considering our league form between 1936 - mid 70s. Also how high the cartoon army are, considering how sh1te they’ve been all my life (53 years).

    Back on topic Re. Barry, he started with us as a LB/CH. I always thought he would end up as sitting in front of the back 4. He’ll do well for you but expect a few red/yellow cards; think he holds the record. Not really because of his age, he’s just never been able to resist the ‘impossible’ tackle. He never had pace in the first place so he aint lost a yard, but has a wand of a left foot. Brunt, Barry and McClean, that’s your left side sorted, if you can cope with the inevitable suspensions in all 3 positions.
    Shrewd signing for a season free.

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    Am I being thick here? We were one of the founder members of the Football league in 1888. West Ham didn't join until 1919 according to Wicki. In other words we had 31 years more to get points in this league table at a time when there were not that many clubs anyway?
    That said, even if I am being thick, we are a great club with a fantastic heritage, founder members of the FL and West Ham cannot compare with that, even if they did win the World Cup on their own!!! (Joke - or is that Bishop Auckland, another big club).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiledvillan View Post
    Fair play to you talkSAFT, where dya pull that haymaker from, end of discussion.
    Surprised man utd were so low and how high the Villa are considering our league form between 1936 - mid 70s. Also how high the cartoon army are, considering how sh1te they’ve been all my life (53 years).
    I pulled all the data from a Football League website a few years ago, and I update it every May. It's quite easy using Excel, and taking account of name-changes etc.
    Yarmbaggie's right: we do have a fair few years start, but I did say it was The All-Time League Placings, so it's West Ham's fault they were probably playing in the Walford and District League while we were trailblazing in the national League.
    Don't forget, though, that the League Winners of 1888 (PNE) only get 12 pts - and we get 6 (it all depends on how many Clubs in the League). This is all to show no bias - I could have given us 86 pts that Year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA1955 View Post
    West'Ham's'highest'ever'finish'is'3rd.Wow
    Even'with'Moore,Peters'and'Hurst'they'usually'fini shed'below'us
    They'are'a'big'club'in'the'East'End'mind
    You're very much allowed to put a gap in between each word you know.

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    I admit to not having read much at all of this thread but noticed the Hammers being mentioned. They are only a big club in the minds of most residents of east London and Es***, where a great majority of their fans come from. I know many Es*** based fans who readily admit to supporting two teams e.g West Ham and Southend. Even east Londoners supporting Orient and West Ham. It is a very strange set of affairs. Anyway, many of their fans have inflated opinion of the club's status and relevance. Please excuse any typos as I am pi55ed.

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