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Thread: Simple question- should Mackinnon go ?

  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by deebuster View Post
    So he should be given credit for winning games we should win and we should just be happy at how that is accomplished regardless?

    Fan morale is at rock bottom. This is not confined to those who inhabit United Mad.

    Just listen to the conversations around you if you go to the games, and in the local hostelries.

    Ray has time to turn this around, but there has to be evidence that this is happening which is sadly not yet apparent.

    With our clout and squad we should not be nervous playing the Brechins and Dumbartons of this world at home and should be looking forward to playing on the road against the St Mirrens and Dunfermlines.

    Many fans are currently turning up out of duty to United, but there should be more reasons than that....surely we have a right to be entertained.

    I will be the first to apologise if we go on a winning run and start playing an attacking brand of football.

    That is what we should expect if we are to escape this pit of despair.
    This is getting so far away from my original argument about some fans piling on from the start. It's just the same arguments over and over about the current style of football which I'm not happy about either but I also don't think it requires punting the manager yet.

  2. #172
    should have went after that st midden debacle the man is clueless

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otm_Shank View Post
    They're not because they never knew anything. Like i say it can go either way and usually at our level a manager is going to fail at some point anyway so saying before a ball is kicked that they will fail is hardly clairvoyance. Reservations are one thing but these people have never given him a single bit of credit and jump on every single piece of negativity. I'm sorry but i don't think it's crazy to suggest that subconsciously being right on a message board is important to these people. Such is society these days
    Ray has had an easy ride IMO we've been piss poor for months and the performances have been awful.

    I'll give him credit when the team starts playing better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otm_Shank View Post
    This started with me talking about the "I always knew" group. So clearly them
    Don't think I've seen anyone say "I always knew"

    Are folk not allowed to say they had doubts over a managerial appointment?

    For the record though I always knew that McNamara was a ****

  5. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by deebuster View Post
    So he should be given credit for winning games we should win and we should just be happy at how that is accomplished regardless?

    Fan morale is at rock bottom. This is not confined to those who inhabit United Mad.

    Just listen to the conversations around you if you go to the games, and in the local hostelries.

    Ray has time to turn this around, but there has to be evidence that this is happening which is sadly not yet apparent.

    With our clout and squad we should not be nervous playing the Brechins and Dumbartons of this world at home and should be looking forward to playing on the road against the St Mirrens and Dunfermlines.

    Many fans are currently turning up out of duty to United, but there should be more reasons than that....surely we have a right to be entertained.

    I will be the first to apologise if we go on a winning run and start playing an attacking brand of football.

    That is what we should expect if we are to escape this pit of despair.
    That is a very good post .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otm_Shank View Post
    And I'm not saying you were one of those people but to claim they didn't exist is just wrong.
    so you think people wanted him to fail?

  7. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Otm_Shank View Post
    They're not because they never knew anything. Like i say it can go either way and usually at our level a manager is going to fail at some point anyway so saying before a ball is kicked that they will fail is hardly clairvoyance. Reservations are one thing but these people have never given him a single bit of credit and jump on every single piece of negativity. I'm sorry but i don't think it's crazy to suggest that subconsciously being right on a message board is important to these people. Such is society these days
    they predicted he wouldnt work, same as saying the knew it wouldnt work, i said at the time it was the wrong appointment and hes not the man to get us promotion, my opinion was based on previous experience, ball kicked or not that was peoples feelings, sadly these feelings are becoming a reality. I dont think he deserves any credit to be honest, why should he, last season second biggest budget and failed to get second and promotion, this seasons biggest budget by miles yet we are still served this negative style of horrendous football, he's signed braw players but they cant play under him. Its not a case of being right, its just guys like myself saying we knew this wouldnt work. We prayed it work but it hasnt/isnt

  8. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by deebuster View Post
    So he should be given credit for winning games we should win and we should just be happy at how that is accomplished regardless?

    Fan morale is at rock bottom. This is not confined to those who inhabit United Mad.

    Just listen to the conversations around you if you go to the games, and in the local hostelries.

    Ray has time to turn this around, but there has to be evidence that this is happening which is sadly not yet apparent.

    With our clout and squad we should not be nervous playing the Brechins and Dumbartons of this world at home and should be looking forward to playing on the road against the St Mirrens and Dunfermlines.

    Many fans are currently turning up out of duty to United, but there should be more reasons than that....surely we have a right to be entertained.

    I will be the first to apologise if we go on a winning run and start playing an attacking brand of football.

    That is what we should expect if we are to escape this pit of despair.
    Great post C

  9. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by huntedbyafreak View Post
    Don't think I've seen anyone say "I always knew"

    Are folk not allowed to say they had doubts over a managerial appointment?

    For the record though I always knew that McNamara was a ****
    Im one L, hands up to that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by huntedbyafreak View Post
    Don't think I've seen anyone say "I always knew"

    Are folk not allowed to say they had doubts over a managerial appointment?

    For the record though I always knew that McNamara was a ****
    That's the exact phrase that started this. Good job glossing what I specifically said I wasn't having a go at. You're very quick to dig at me but it's fine. Just read what I've been saying before doing it

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