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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    Some short memories on here. Curle was hounded out. And at the beginning of 2014/2015 season after 14 games Derry's side were sitting 4th.

    Whether or not there is "free flowing" to come is debatable but developing a "convincing" style would be a comfort. We're short of that at the moment.
    Indeed some have very short memories & seem to have already forgotten that Curle & Derry were sacked by a completely different owner & also seem to forget the mess we were in when AH & KN took over. We are not perfect but with 2 home games to come we sit 1 point off automatic promotion After what most people were saying was a very difficult start to the season & although I realise that it's still very early days, surely we can find room for a bit of optimism & excitement? even the pessimists among us must concede that 10 points (only another 40 needed for safety) from the 1st 5 games aint bad.

  2. #102
    Goal came catches Lewis as he. errrrr, nobs it into the net.


    https://twitter.com/Official_NCFC/st...13043772858369

  3. #103
    Being a relatively positive person I just can never understand the mind set of some of our supporters. They will NEVER be happy!
    Who knows where we will finish this season, lower leagues are a lottery!
    But FFS just look at the table and enjoy it.
    According to many this squad was relegation fodder, so after a good start now apparently the league table lies!
    Now apparently we will struggle against the better teams (who are they exactly.)
    Would the league table be lying if we were bottom? Course not!

  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by ancientpie View Post
    Indeed some have very short memories & seem to have already forgotten that Curle & Derry were sacked by a completely different owner & also seem to forget the mess we were in when AH & KN took over. We are not perfect but with 2 home games to come we sit 1 point off automatic promotion After what most people were saying was a very difficult start to the season & although I realise that it's still very early days, surely we can find room for a bit of optimism & excitement? even the pessimists among us must concede that 10 points (only another 40 needed for safety) from the 1st 5 games aint bad.
    Cautious optimism but not exuberance. It doesn't matter who the owner was the supporters turned on Curle's style of football despite the position we occupied. Derry wasn't sacked until the following season from the one that I cited.

    Yes we have more points than I would have predicted, it's a good haul for this early stage of the season. A clean sheet too. Let's hope KN does find a way of improving the way this squad plays - he seems to think they have it in them and I'll be pleased if we are never near a relegation fight this season. But Derry's haul at the end of October 2014 prior to the Walsall game had everyone dreaming of having found the messiah and of championship football. He nearly got us relegated and then lost his job the season after after a dismal set of results.

    But you know all this, you've been around longer than me.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by kill_the_drum View Post
    Being a relatively positive person I just can never understand the mind set of some of our supporters. They will NEVER be happy!
    Who knows where we will finish this season, lower leagues are a lottery!
    But FFS just look at the table and enjoy it.
    According to many this squad was relegation fodder, so after a good start now apparently the league table lies!
    Now apparently we will struggle against the better teams (who are they exactly.)
    Would the league table be lying if we were bottom? Course not!
    Would the better teams include Wycombe, one of the teams sat above us, who we stuck four past on their own ground a couple of weeks ago?

    A fine away performance yesterday. Restricted the home team to long range efforts and set pieces, defended well and took our clear cut chance when it came.

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    Cautious optimism but not exuberance. It doesn't matter who the owner was the supporters turned on Curle's style of football despite the position we occupied. Derry wasn't sacked until the following season from the one that I cited.

    Yes we have more points than I would have predicted, it's a good haul for this early stage of the season. A clean sheet too. Let's hope KN does find a way of improving the way this squad plays - he seems to think they have it in them and I'll be pleased if we are never near a relegation fight this season. But Derry's haul at the end of October 2014 prior to the Walsall game had everyone dreaming of having found the messiah and of championship football. He nearly got us relegated and then lost his job the season after after a dismal set of results.

    But you know all this, you've been around longer than me.
    Despite my username I am still a young un compared to many on here but I have been around long enough to know anything can happen in football, especially lower league football, AH may sell up to go into business with Ray Trew,KN could be poached to become the next Brazil manager or Duffy & Hollis could be headhunted by Barcelona to shore up their defence, we don't know so why not enjoy a bit of success while we can?

  7. #107
    Out of curiosity, when was the last time a successful Notts side produced the free flowing, winning football that most on here seem to crave?

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by apieandpint View Post
    Out of curiosity, when was the last time a successful Notts side produced the free flowing, winning football that most on here seem to crave?
    2010, when we spent money we didn't have ( cheated )

  9. #109
    The Curle team that just missed out on the play offs was pretty expansive. Not exactly successful, but it was the highest placed team we've had in the last 15-20 years.

    I don't think anyone expects Nolan's side to be free flowing, especially away from home, but what I'm curious about is do people who went yesterday think it was a professional, clinical away victory which is likely to be regularly repeated for the rest of the season or a fairly spawny win against a poor side that could easily have gone the other way?

    A bit more interesting (to me anyway) than moaning about moaners.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by arnapie View Post
    2010, when we spent money we didn't have ( cheated )
    We didn't spend that much. All investment based on borrowing is cheating really. Buying a house on a mortgage is cheating, if you believe you shouldn't spend money unless you already have it in your bank account. What Munto did is similar to what Ray Trew did, just they were better at it.

    Anyway, I would say 1982. But I enjoyed Warnock's side, despite people saying it wasn't 'proper' football. Yes, people were moaning even back then, so why are some posters getting hysterical in their moaning about the moaners when no fecker is moaning anyway.

  11. #111
    Very much the latter

  12. #112
    I.e. the scruffy away win against a poor side who should have been one up at half time
    Not complaining but not convinced we deserve to be 5th - just yet...

  13. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Proudpie View Post
    I.e. the scruffy away win against a poor side who should have been one up at half time
    Not complaining but not convinced we deserve to be 5th - just yet...
    Strange that the highlights package doesn't show the Vale attack that hit the base of the Notts post......I might need to watch the full game again on iFollow........but I haven't had enough beers yet!!

  14. #114
    Free-flowing football in league 2? This division is renowned for being one you have to scrap and battle your way out of. Warnock, provider of our best recent memories, was a battler until he could afford the kind of players who indulged their silky skills. Even now at Cardiff, he's assembled a team of battlers and had the close season to do it so it may not be a temporary phenomenon.
    The league table is meaningless at this stage.

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by sidders View Post
    The league table is meaningless at this stage.
    It is - talk of 'in the playoffs' is pretty meaningless as they're 7 months away...

    The table only really starts to take shape after about 10 games.

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by CmonUSexyStylishPies View Post
    It is - talk of 'in the playoffs' is pretty meaningless as they're 7 months away...

    The table only really starts to take shape after about 10 games.
    Absolutely right. And if anyone wants the evidence, here's the top six after 5 games last season:-

    1 Morecambe, 2 Luton, 3 Doncaster, 4 Colchester, 5 Mansfield, 6 Carlisle

    Of these, only Doncaster won promotion.

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Frigiliana Pie 1 View Post
    Absolutely right. And if anyone wants the evidence, here's the top six after 5 games last season:-

    1 Morecambe, 2 Luton, 3 Doncaster, 4 Colchester, 5 Mansfield, 6 Carlisle

    Of these, only Doncaster won promotion.
    Evidence - Why stop at 6th ?
    7th Plymouth - Promoted
    8th Portsmouth - Promoted
    Also Carlisle and Luton were in the playoffs, so five out of the top eight finished in the final important places.
    I agree it is too early to talk about promotion/playoffs but don't dismiss early season form, these games count for as much as the ones at the end of the season, 3pts for a win etc.

  18. #118
    Quote Originally Posted by ReadWarbler View Post
    Evidence - Why stop at 6th ?
    7th Plymouth - Promoted
    8th Portsmouth - Promoted
    Also Carlisle and Luton were in the playoffs, so five out of the top eight finished in the final important places.
    I agree it is too early to talk about promotion/playoffs but don't dismiss early season form, these games count for as much as the ones at the end of the season, 3pts for a win etc.
    This is the positive attitude that i like... granted nothing is sorted after 5 games but we are going great guns at the moment.. Saturdays game is not a given but Morecambe are not great shakes so lets hope for a decent performance and 3 points to strengthen our position...

  19. 04/05 we were top going into September..look how that season panned out.

    The table means nothing as others have said.

    We'll finish comfortably in mid table..which isn't the end of the world considering past seasons efforts. We have a solid side that lacks the finer ingredients needed to be pushing.
    Last edited by KeepTheMagpieFlyingH; 04-09-2017 at 03:02 PM.

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by KeepTheMagpieFlyingH View Post
    04/05 we were top going into September..look how that season panned out.

    The table means nothing as others have said.

    We'll finish comfortably in mid table..which isn't the end of the world considering past seasons efforts. We have a solid side that lacks the finer ingredients needed to be pushing.
    It was 2005/06 but you make a good point KTMFH.

    The last game in August we won at Mansfield to go 3 points clear at the top of the table. (That was the last time we won at Mansfield).

    We then went 9 games without a win and ended the season winning 1 of our last 16 games and finishing 21st and 3 points off going out of the league.

    Looking at Stats:

    In each of the last 4 seasons, 4 teams who were in the top 7 after 5 games finished in the top 7 at the end of the season.

    Of those 16 teams over the 4 seasons, 8 won automatic promotion and 8 reached the play-offs but only 1 won the play-off final. In the other 3 seasons the winner of the play-off final was not in the top 7 after 5 games.

    What does all that prove? Absolutely nothing! What’s happened in the past doesn’t have a bearing on what’s going to happen this season.

    I’d rather be in 5th with 10 points though, after 5 games than 5th from bottom with 4 points.

    Over the last 10 seasons 52 points would have seen you retain your place in the Football League. So that’s only 42 more points to go to safety!

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