Personally speaking, I would love to stay at a redeveloped Pittodrie, but the board have clearly made up their mind.

I'm not against Kingsford. We only play at home once a fortnight - a shuttle bus from town isnt a hardship.......

PROVIDED WE HAVE A QUALITY, ATMOSPHERIC STADIUM DESIGN*

*steep stands,stands tight to pitch - i.e. nothing like Bristol Rovers' plan. Ferencvaros was a decent example on previous posts. Hearts will also have a decent ground in a few months. A design that could be expanded in future years would also be worthwhile.

For me there are two debates:

- Kingsford Y/N

- Stadium design: Atmospheric vs Cheap off-the-shelf design

Lets focus on these issues separately. Stadium design in this forum.

NIMBYs, lack of pubs etc., transport etc. on the other forum.

I'm sure there will be beer tents/bars at the new ground in some form. I think a lot of fans are missing the point. We need to make sure the stadium design is right and everything else will work out fine.

Dozens of good 20,000 / £50M stadium designs out there - why dont the board go on a fact finding trip across Europe and see how its done and make this the best stadium it can be.

This stadium is going to be here long after we've gone - lets do it right!