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Thread: Hurricanes Irma .. and Jose

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    Hurricanes Irma .. and Jose

    Irma is going to devastate lots of Caribbean Islands with wind speeds of over 185 mph, lots of rain and storm surges 3 metres high. It's the size of France and looks like its heading for Florida.
    This is bigger and stronger than Harvey which has killed 45 and left many parts of Texas still flooded and without electricity. It may take two weeks for it to clear.

    It's the first time in many years that two category 5 storms have hit the US and a third one Jose, is already building so this could be a record year.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...IVE-storm.html

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/weathe...ecast-NOAA-NHC

    Is this global warming and if so where is this going to take us? Will it come here eventually?
    Last edited by oldcolner; 06-09-2017 at 07:54 AM.

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    Yes O C .....where will it take us ''Global warning ''

    Well, think of it this way the planet is spinning in its orbit and evenly balanced . But with global warming it means at some point the 'ice caps will melt' ? If the ice caps melt does that mean that the distribution of weight has change ? If so then it may cause a 'wobble'? Could it be happening already the Inuit say the the setting of the sun has changed plus the hours that they used to hunt.etc A lot of it is there but a short report https://youtu.be/LCWK74ulb68

    If the poles melt then the earth could spin into a new orbit, then the earths magnetic field would change. The North pole could end up where the Pacific Ocean is ??

    Now lets see we have 1) the Climate change 2) the Korean drama 3) China - India stand off 4) Middle East in conflict 5 )Conflict in the South China sea 6) Russia vs Ukraine conflict 7 ) Hurricane Irma and Jose. 8 )The fall of Capitalism!....and more??

    But here is Loey !! https://youtu.be/A3yCcXgbKrE

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    BBC reporting Hurricane Irma has caused widespread destruction across the Caribbean, reducing buildings to rubble and leaving at least nine people dead.
    The small island of Barbuda is said to be "barely habitable". Officials warn that St Martin is almost destroyed, and the death toll is likely to rise.
    Irma, a category five hurricane, the highest possible level, is passing north of Puerto Rico.
    Two other storms have strengthened to become hurricanes.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41182991

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    Possibly the worst North Atlantic Huricane ever? It's already the strongest ever with 200+ mph winds; all the news we're getting is USA based at it really annoyed me when their 'landfall' predictions were the date/time it was anticipated to hit Florida; all those island nations getting slammed ahead of then, including the US Virgin Islands and perhaps Puerto Rico (both US Territories) clearly don't count.

    Barbuda's a very small proportion of the Antigua & Barbuda landmass/population, St Martin will get bankrolled by Holland/France, Anguilla and British Virgins will presumably be looking to the UK for help/aid - fortunately they're both very wealth states, so should still be OK, even if we let them down. USVI's obviously looking to the USA, but what about the Turks & Caicos and the Bahamas? Current predictions suggest that pretty much every island in the chain is going to get hammered, with 150-200 mph winds and 15-20' seas; I'd estimate that less than 5% of their landmasses are above twenty feet high!

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    Quote Originally Posted by afloatinclaret View Post
    All the news we're getting is USA based at it really annoyed me when their 'landfall' predictions were the date/time it was anticipated to hit Florida; all those island nations getting slammed ahead of then, including the US Virgin Islands and perhaps Puerto Rico (both US Territories) clearly don't count.

    What do you expect from the Yanks? Most are hard wired to think the world ends outside their borders.

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    It's certainly causing massive devastation and some favourite holiday resorts are wrecked so badly it will take years to recover. Remember the pictures of planes coming in over the beach at St Martin's...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41194959

    I'm glad we didn't choose a Caribbean cruise for our special anniversary. I wonder if there will be many cruises going there now. Very sad.

    Florida must be worried, very worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    It's certainly causing massive devastation and some favourite holiday resorts are wrecked so badly it will take years to recover. Remember the pictures of planes coming in over the beach at St Martin's...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41194959

    I'm glad we didn't choose a Caribbean cruise for our special anniversary. I wonder if there will be many cruises going there now. Very sad.

    Florida must be worried, very worried.
    Most of the cruise ships are in the Med in summer OC, they cruise the Caribbean in winter after the hurricane season has ended. We're due to sail out of Puerto Rico in February and St Martin is on the itinerary. I don't anticipate the cruise being cancelled or disrupted, too much money at stake, it'll be sorted by then I'm sure.

    Incidentally we were in Florida last summer during a hurricane, we were watching the weather channel as it tracked a tornado developing and heading towards us. It changed course about 20 miles away and faded out, but for a while it was quite scary, and we really didn't know what to do for the best. Don't get many of them in Lancashire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    It's certainly causing massive devastation and some favourite holiday resorts are wrecked so badly it will take years to recover. Remember the pictures of planes coming in over the beach at St Martin's...

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-41194959

    I'm glad we didn't choose a Caribbean cruise for our special anniversary. I wonder if there will be many cruises going there now. Very sad.

    Florida must be worried, very worried.
    Airport beach on St Maarten was a mind blowing experience. Mrs Outwood and I were there January 2016. Horrible to think of the devastation there and elsewhere.

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    Florida bracing itself, but it seems to be going more up the west coast now. Here's the latest BBC damage assessment and prediction. I wonder why it won't go straight on rather than make a right turn?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41216890


    Cuba: Officials have reported "significant damage", without giving further details, but said there were no confirmed casualties yet, the AFP news agency reports
    St Martin and St Barthelemy: Six out of 10 homes on St Martin, an island shared between France and the Netherlands, now uninhabitable, French officials say. They said nine people had died and seven were missing in the French territories, while two are known to have died in Dutch Sint Maarten
    Turks and Caicos Islands: Widespread damage, although extent unclear
    Barbuda: The small island is said to be "barely habitable", with 95% of the buildings damaged. Antigua and Barbuda Prime Minister Gaston Browne estimates reconstruction will cost $100m (80m). One death has been confirmed
    Anguilla: Extensive damage with one person confirmed dead
    Puerto Rico: More than 6,000 residents of the US territory are in shelters and many more without power. At least three people have died
    British Virgin Islands:Widespread damage reported, and five dead
    US Virgin Islands: Damage to infrastructure was said to be widespread, with four deaths confirmed
    Haiti and the Dominican Republic: Both battered by the storm, but neither had as much damage as initially feared

    Jose now category 4 and Barbuda evacuated but looks like it will escape Joses path.

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    Norder
    That's very worrying,
    Makes you wonder who's going Watt to whom
    Last edited by oldcolner; 10-09-2017 at 07:50 AM.

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    The death and destruction caused by these storms in the Carribean illustrates just how infantile our Met Office and BBC is, giving names to the occasional high winds and bits of rain we get in this country. They ought to be ashamed of themselves as they get excited about Storm Betty, which has blown some roof tiles off in Sutton Coldfield and a pensioner's umbrella inside out in Pontefract. But they have no shame.

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    I guess it keeps someone in a job. I'm a Storm name picker.
    When Irma gets here will it be Storm Irma or will it get a new name and if so will Europe accept it when it gets to them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    I guess it keeps someone in a job.
    It helps them push their environmental propaganda, makes us think the weather is far worse than it used to be, and worse than it actually is. That's the real reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    It helps them push environmental propaganda, makes us think the weather is far worse than it used to be, and worse than it actually is. That's the real reason.
    But who are they? the Met Office, the BBC. I know BT will blame Mrs May!!

    Into Hovis mode
    I remember when snow lay on the ground for weeks on end and we had to walk miles to school through snow drifts that were as big as me, and we had summers where we got temps in the 90s for weeks leading to us having to share bath water and then put it on the garden.
    Where has it all gone.

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    I have some experience with hurricanes. Myself, the ex and our daughter were in Myrtle Beach when hurricane ‘Hugo’ hit Charleston in ’89. We left our hotel and headed north to Virginia Beach, little did we know the remnants of Hugo quickly followed us up the coast. Yup, a wasted vacation.

    Fast forward to ‘Irma’. My daughter and hubby live in Santiago, Dominican Republic, they’ve been there for about 12 years. They’re no strangers to hurricanes, they’re a fact of life in the Caribbean. Luckily they’ve never had to endure any personal or property damage……yet.

    My sister is currently in Naples, Florida. For some reason, unknown to me, she decided to stay and ride it out. Last time we communicated, last Friday, she indicate they moved from their beachfront apartment to the second floor of a hotel. According to her the room is concrete, has no windows, they have food, water and, in her words……….enough booze……..to see them through until this nasty storm leaves the area. Downside is when we last communicated Naples wasn’t expected to take a direct hit. Now it’s dead in tracks for a direct hit, probably later today. I don’t expect to hear back until the dust settles, or in her case, until the water recedes.


    Don’t mess with Mother Nature when she gets riled up.

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    Hope your sister is ok Exile. It sounds like it's now down to Category 1 and lots of homes have no power but not much information yet on the impact there of any storm surge.
    At least Jose has headed away from land, but maybe it's coming nearer our way as a storm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    The death and destruction caused by these storms in the Carribean illustrates just how infantile our Met Office and BBC is, giving names to the occasional high winds and bits of rain we get in this country. They ought to be ashamed of themselves as they get excited about Storm Betty, which has blown some roof tiles off in Sutton Coldfield and a pensioner's umbrella inside out in Pontefract. But they have no shame.
    Not to mention the 1400 killed in India and Bangladesh in the past week - hardly get a mention from the USA-obsessed media. I'm sure cruise passengers and holidaymakers will find alternative destinations - my heart bleeds for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    It sounds like it's now down to Category 1 and lots of homes have no power but not much information yet on the impact there of any storm surge.
    We stayed in Cape Coral last summer, the Police Chief there has tweeted to warn of a six to ten feet storm surge. The house we stayed in was a couple of hundred yards inland, and no more than a couple of feet above sea level, as was the entire place. If they're right there won't be much of Cape Coral left afterwards.

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    Cape Coral has escaped relatively unscathed, some trees down, a few roads blocked, power off, but virtually no flooding or serious structural damage.

    After all the dire predictions, make of that what you will.

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