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Thread: Does anybody think Raymond should stay ?

  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Whitfieldarab View Post
    You missed out the fact he was relegated with Raith in our so called sh*tey league.

    No doubt he done well with Inverness but so did Brewster
    Raith were in free fall when he took charge, so think it's unfair to judge him on that.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by arab_plumber View Post
    Absolute nonsense Shedka a proper manager would have this shambles turned around in 3/4 weeks and we'd hardly be miles off the pace by then anyway.

    Ray has been a poor manager from start to finish and only the head in the sand brigade couldn't see it ,he promised we'd be at it yesterday after two weeks to work things out......

    Ray talks a lot but never accepts his own massive short comings ,the buck stops with him and the reason we're struggling is his dire tactics and incredible team selections
    ****ing spot on mate, if fowk canny see that McKinnon is useless, well wir ****ed

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by chayirbazov View Post
    Raith were in free fall when he took charge, so think it's unfair to judge him on that.
    Dundee were in free fall with Hartley so how did diddy McCann manage save them?

    Sorry but Hughes wouldn't be the man for me. Just my opinion.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    Bafling that anyone thinks we DEFINITELY wont win the league with a managerial change. Jesus christ man. McKinnon is ****ing clueless. With the players we have we could walk this league with the right man in charge who installs the right mentality into these players. These players will be walking around thinking the same as what McKinnon is saying...'ach we'll improve, were a new team, it'll take time, we'll get better'. All this ****e comes from the manager and his players will be walking around with the same mentality. Get him to **** and get a Levein type in who will have these players giving a helluva lot more than what they are currently giving. There is a weak mentality about these players and that comes from one man.
    Here ****ing here.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Whitfieldarab View Post
    Dundee were in free fall with Hartley so how did diddy McCann manage save them?

    Sorry but Hughes wouldn't be the man for me. Just my opinion.
    There were a few clubs in free fall, no just the filth.

  6. #46
    I find it really weird that anyone thinks we should easily win this league and I think that's at the root of wanting Ray out. Hibs we in it for 3 years, Sevco for 2, both much bigger clubs than us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    I find it really weird that anyone thinks we should easily win this league and I think that's at the root of wanting Ray out. Hibs we in it for 3 years, Sevco for 2, both much bigger clubs than us.
    But they were in the league at the same time as each other, plus hearts were there too, now its just us, with a superior budget compared to everyone else, we should win the league but we wont with him in charge

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    I find it really weird that anyone thinks we should easily win this league and I think that's at the root of wanting Ray out. Hibs we in it for 3 years, Sevco for 2, both much bigger clubs than us.
    Never ever thought this was gonna be easy, but our team almost certainly does not look like its capable of putting in the effort that every other team seems capable of doing! Now Ray has collected a team that on paper i think everyone agrees are good enough to get us out of here, but even you must see that there is something not right!

  9. #49
    Very rarely does a manager turn this kind of wave of negativity around so I reckon it's got to the stage where it's a matter of time.

    We obviously travel to Falkirk on Saturday. Whilst that's traditionally been a difficult place to go, they have had one of their worst starts to a season at this level in years. Winless, conceded 12 (a tally only matched by Brechin) in their 5 matches and their fans are calling for Houston's head.

    Failure to win his game should be the last straw. We have already played the other 3 teams in the bottom 4 and although we have 7 points to show for it, we've only managed a measly 3 goals, only 1 of which was from open play. Performances completely unacceptable.

    The St Mirren match showed what happens when come up against one of the better sides and with Morton and Dunfermline to follow, we're in huge trouble if things don't change fast.

  10. #50
    Falkirk is a big indicator for me.

    if we win with a decent performance then it shows we've maybe turned a corner and are capable of winning this league while continuing are bookies main rivals down right at the start of the season piling pressure on houston.

    if we lose then ray will be under even more pressure and we've allowed a rival gain some confidence.

    a humping to either side and i reckon losing manager will be sacked.

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    We have history of Falkirk away being the last straw for a failing manager. Still hope we pump them.

  12. #52
    we also seem to always struggle on astro's. first game on astro this year lets see if different players react differently to it

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by darrenshedtastic View Post
    we also seem to always struggle on astro's. first game on astro this year lets see if different players react differently to it
    I'm not so sure, we've had some very decent results on astro pitches in recent times.

  14. #54
    yeah a couple of decent results (qots and falkirk last year) but whenever ive went to an away game thats on astro we do seem to struggle abit normally at hamilton's.

    hoping the falkirk win in the playoff will give us some confidence going into this knowing that we can actually win there.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    I'm not so sure, we've had some very decent results on astro pitches in recent times.
    3-1, 3-0 and 1-2 are not decent results

    1-4 and 4-2 are not decent results

    1-0 is not a decent result

    aggregate 13-9 and only 3 points!

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by darrenshedtastic View Post
    Falkirk is a big indicator for me.

    if we win with a decent performance then it shows we've maybe turned a corner and are capable of winning this league while continuing are bookies main rivals down right at the start of the season piling pressure on houston.

    if we lose then ray will be under even more pressure and we've allowed a rival gain some confidence.

    a humping to either side and i reckon losing manager will be sacked.
    Ye can stick yir mortgage on it, Falkirk will git thir 1st win oh the season against us on Saturday

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by chayirbazov View Post
    Ye can stick yir mortgage on it, Falkirk will git thir 1st win oh the season against us on Saturday
    Unfortunately I think you're right. I can see us taking a 3 or 4 nil tanking on saturday. McKinnon will still be in a job however, continuing to ramble his deluded pish about us not being far away, we'll click soon, judge us at Xmas etc!

    Phuck off Ray!

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    I've just about managed to forget and erase that utter disgrace of a first half / team set up from last week.

    So as has been said before............here's hoping Ray has learned from that aye, and the players. Cmon to fek United do the business the morn. Vital , vital game , as they all are now. Do not let us down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TangerineDream View Post
    I've just about managed to forget and erase that utter disgrace of a first half / team set up from last week.

    So as has been said before............here's hoping Ray has learned from that aye, and the players. Cmon to fek United do the business the morn. Vital , vital game , as they all are now. Do not let us down.
    Yeah i know what you mean me too - steam into them and fans will be behind everything

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    Depending on results he'll be away after this game

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