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Thread: Arabtrust - actions speak louder than words

  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by PortugueseFrank View Post
    EGM for fan groups.

    Then install boards and committees that are more in line with whatever your aims are.

    Itís not a difficult process to change the direction of these groups and elect new boards. Just needs people interested enough in changing the directions of the Trust etc to put themselves forward.

    Thatís a lot easier than hoping that those in control will all of a sudden change to be in line with whatever aims critics have.

    So my point is that these groups can be changed if people use the routes like an EGM.

    Surely thatís more useful to those who want groups like the Trust to get more vocal?

    Be the change you want to see and all that.
    ArabTRUST do not have the Trust of most Arabs,

    The fact that a supporters foundation is being set up means that the steering committee see them as rainted.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    Frank I like your posts on here but a little confused with that. Do you mean EGM for DUFC because ST has 51% IIRC so don't think that's a runner.
    If you mean and EGM for AT what good would that do?

    As to wasting energy I'm only wasting the energy of typing out the question "what is our Fans Representation on the Board actually doing to further the aim stated in the Gavin Muir interview"

    If AT truly had the best interests of Dundee United at heart they should be following up on their words. For example - have THEY helped in the search for a new majority shareholder? If not, why not. etc etc

    Hiding behind anonymity while the very existence of club is at risk is a dereliction of their duty.
    You clearly don't understand that there is no Fans Representation on the DUFC Board only an ASSOCIATE Director REPRESENTING ArabTRUST and secondly Eddie Thompson wanted all United fans to join ArabTRUST.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by deebuster View Post
    ArabTRUST do not have the Trust of most Arabs,

    The fact that a supporters foundation is being set up means that the steering committee see them as rainted.
    Thatís as may be but the fact remains as the third largest shareholding in the club they have a big foothold and profile. So if fans want the Trust to be different it can be made to happen. All it takes is for people who want change to put themselves forward at an EGM or the Trustís AGM.

    Once in place they can put their views into action.

    Surely thatís a better use of energy for those that think the Trust should act differently?

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by PortugueseFrank View Post
    Thatís as may be but the fact remains as the third largest shareholding in the club they have a big foothold and profile. So if fans want the Trust to be different it can be made to happen. All it takes is for people who want change to put themselves forward at an EGM or the Trustís AGM.

    Once in place they can put their views into action.

    Surely thatís a better use of energy for those that think the Trust should act differently?
    ^^^^^^^^^^
    What a sensible post! Couldn't agree more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retired Arab View Post
    They've done a considerable amount and certainly not enough time or space to post all details here but you're more than welcome to meet over a pint anywhere and discuss rationally like an adult.
    There's plenty space here! Fire away.
    How about a bullet point summary?
    Guess it would be quite short anyway.
    Still refusing to answer a simple question I see 😅

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahlltanyirhide View Post
    A lot of different tradesmen and women involved with ArabTRUST but yet to meet a tinsmith.
    Knitters for the scarfs?

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by offshore_arab83 View Post
    Knitters for the scarfs?
    I'm not sure why folk are so down on ArabTrust's fundraising for youth development. Regardless of what form it takes it's a good thing, no?

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by offshore_arab83 View Post
    Knitters for the scarfs?

    Keep the witty retorts coming OA, and please let me know when another supporters organisation affiliated to Dundee United Football Club raises and provides over £250,000 in funding

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by ahlltanyirhide View Post
    Keep the witty retorts coming OA, and please let me know when another supporters organisation affiliated to Dundee United Football Club raises and provides over £250,000 in funding
    Hiya ahlltanyirhide any news yet or were you just making it up??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahlltanyirhide View Post
    Keep the witty retorts coming OA, and please let me know when another supporters organisation affiliated to Dundee United Football Club raises and provides over £250,000 in funding
    Mugs ceramic mugs

    Can anyone name any other supporters organisations that never raised any alarm bells or had concerns about the running of the club?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    I'm not sure why folk are so down on ArabTrust's fundraising for youth development. Regardless of what form it takes it's a good thing, no?
    That's all it looks like they do M, it's a good thing but that seems to be all they do?

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by offshore_arab83 View Post
    Mugs ceramic mugs

    Can anyone name any other supporters organisations that never raised any alarm bells or had concerns about the running of the club?
    For someone only too swift to have a pop at fellow Arabs it's obvious you didn't even bother to read opening link

    https://stv.tv/sport/football/135187...ed-fans-group/

    If you have read it then you wouldn't have responded with more FAKE NEWS but of course you're just stirring. So so sad. Never ever thought I'd be so ashamed of fellow Arabs but hey ho I'm sure you've a few mates like the Tangerine & Black bearer of the Butchers Apron to support your silly extremist views

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    There's plenty space here! Fire away.
    How about a bullet point summary?
    Guess it would be quite short anyway.
    Still refusing to answer a simple question I see ��
    I've not refused to answer a simple question at all so stop lying. I've offered you a clear opportunity to sit down and talk about and clearly explain your concerns about ArabTRUST matters but you haven't accepted. Why?
    By the way a recent ArabTRUST tweet said "AT position not changed we want change but until that happens we work with whoever is running the club". Seems sensible, fair and practical to me and probably most reasonable Arabs too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retired Arab View Post
    I've not refused to answer a simple question at all so stop lying. I've offered you a clear opportunity to sit down and talk about and clearly explain your concerns about ArabTRUST matters but you haven't accepted. Why?
    By the way a recent ArabTRUST tweet said "AT position not changed we want change but until that happens we work with whoever is running the club". Seems sensible, fair and practical to me and probably most reasonable Arabs too.
    Maybe you should change your username to Rattled Arab because you clearly are.
    I havn't lied about anything. I asked you twice for any evidence that AT have acted to move forward on the aims set out in Gavins interview. Twice you have deflected and twice you've refused.
    I have no wish to sit down with you or anyone else at AT - a bizarre invitation by the way.
    If you won't (can't more likely) list even the smallest action that AT have taken to foster change in the Boardroom since that pre relegation interview it seems likely that there hasn't been any action.
    You're obviously unhappy that AT is being highlighted for inaction and just responding with daft insults and weird observations.
    So lets give it one more try. Answer the question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retired Arab View Post
    For someone only too swift to have a pop at fellow Arabs it's obvious you didn't even bother to read opening link

    https://stv.tv/sport/football/135187...ed-fans-group/

    If you have read it then you wouldn't have responded with more FAKE NEWS but of course you're just stirring. So so sad. Never ever thought I'd be so ashamed of fellow Arabs but hey ho I'm sure you've a few mates like the Tangerine & Black bearer of the Butchers Apron to support your silly extremist views
    Hope you're not the PR man at AT
    Deary me.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by offshore_arab83 View Post
    That's all it looks like they do M, it's a good thing but that seems to be all they do?
    Clearly there is much more to the organisation than that, a quick look at their website will tell you that.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by blackandtangerine View Post
    Hiya ahlltanyirhide any news yet or were you just making it up??
    All good things come to those who wait

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by offshore_arab83 View Post
    Mugs ceramic mugs

    Can anyone name any other supporters organisations that never raised any alarm bells or had concerns about the running of the club?
    The Blue Order, Dundee Supporters Society, and all supporter organisations affiliated to Celtic Football Club (coz if big jock knew, then surely to phukk someone else did

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by ahlltanyirhide View Post
    All good things come to those who wait
    Theres mair chance oh mckinnon starting with two up top i reckon

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    Maybe you should change your username to Rattled Arab because you clearly are.
    I havn't lied about anything. I asked you twice for any evidence that AT have acted to move forward on the aims set out in Gavins interview. Twice you have deflected and twice you've refused.
    I have no wish to sit down with you or anyone else at AT - a bizarre invitation by the way.
    If you won't (can't more likely) list even the smallest action that AT have taken to foster change in the Boardroom since that pre relegation interview it seems likely that there hasn't been any action.
    You're obviously unhappy that AT is being highlighted for inaction and just responding with daft insults and weird observations.
    So lets give it one more try. Answer the question?
    Just for you Stoke, to put a smile on your face, I can honesty confirm now that to the best of my knowledge ArabTRUST have encouraged at least one capable person to join the DUFC Board and continue to liaise with ST and other Directors on a weekly basis to achieve change. Now for goodness sake shut yer moaning pus!
    Last edited by Retired Arab; 12-09-2017 at 09:24 AM.

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