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[PortugueseFrank]

Agree min can ye imagine kunts like Mike Barile having a say? ST is a dick and i do want him oot but nae at the expense of a fans group

Not the only fan group member that will think like that. Guaranteed.

[shedboy71]

Spence kept sanity and just plain humanity together at the club in so many ways. Derek too.

[LSArab]

Thats why no fans group will own or part of utd - but yes i would but then i am a successful businessman so easy for me to say. Maybe the heads of all these factions that is their life that is their aspiration. and fair play but too many factions voices and not enough focus.

FYI - i have previously enquired about ownership and investment into utd. I was treated like a leper and wont be back. You probably know who I am given some of your insight and comments.

Wow. This is an interesting thread.

Says a lot. Potential investors are shunned. Running of the club elsewhere in thread is said to be toxic.

No wonder we can't find a buyer if this is true. The longer ST involved the more it seems the lose chance of good potential owners / investors being interested

[PortugueseFrank]

Agree and you are not who i thought you were. i would say arrogance and ignorance is a leadership style i could associate with the club. Unfortunately more through ignorance than any self belief or historic delivery

Leadership comes from the top.

It seeps into every area.

I wish the club’s staff that interact with other clubs or media folk would learn a little humility.

That would be a start.

[shedboy71]

Wow. This is an interesting thread.

Says a lot. Potential investors are shunned. Running of the club elsewhere in thread is said to be toxic.

No wonder we can't find a buyer if this is true. The longer ST involved the more it seems the lose chance of good potential owners / investors being interested

Not sure if others have been. Some points made are that its is difficult to deal with utd in anything just now. We arent the family club we built are name on to be honest. Most clubs chairmen despise us now - even ICT. did you know Yogi was illegally approached and had signed a contract only for ICT to see right through it. I posted he was coming here well before press got onto it. A total shambles.

Anyhoo we are still gelling

[seenitab4]

What a load oh jobbies

[shedboy71]

Leadership comes from the top.

It seeps into every area.

I wish the club’s staff that interact with other clubs or media folk would learn a little humility.

That would be a start.

Agree - my best mate is editor of a tabloid he has sympathy for utd mainly because of rangers (he hates both the twisted sisters) but cant abide utd and their comms. Bizarrely there are posters on here who work for him and are arabs 100%

what is the starting position then what now?

[shedboy71]

What a load oh jobbies

do you have pictures? just a few middle aged guys talking sh!te so you are right enough

[LSArab]

Not sure if others have been. Some points made are that its is difficult to deal with utd in anything just now. We arent the family club we built are name on to be honest. Most clubs chairmen despise us now - even ICT. did you know Yogi was illegally approached and had signed a contract only for ICT to see right through it. I posted he was coming here well before press got onto it. A total shambles.

Anyhoo we are still gelling

It's a real mess and so much that needs to change. It is top to bottom job needed.

I don't think fans have done enough to indicate unhappiness with how club run. Fine coming on here and posting but rarely hear anything chanted etc against Thompson at tannadice.

There does need to be one organised group like in United for Change times

[PortugueseFrank]

It's a real mess and so much that needs to change. It is top to bottom job needed.

I don't think fans have done enough to indicate unhappiness with how club run. Fine coming on here and posting but rarely hear anything chanted etc against Thompson at tannadice.

There does need to be one organised group like in United for Change times

Most useful thing would be for fans groups to sacrifice their own personal egos for the greater good.

Organise and get one focus.

Get control of the trust board and get publicity as third biggest shareholder, resign board position if desired, call club EGM with 5% of shareholding.

But that won’t happen.

I’ve zero confidence in any fan group.