O/T Theresa

[Trickytreesreds]

It wouldn't surprise me if Tricky sees that as a positive.

what did I say.
He laid it on a plate. No secrets, just his opinion.
You or I may not agree with it. But it is in the open. Rare for a politician.
Scruffy mean while, plays the line of what the public might like whilst trying to hide his personal preferences. IRA/CND/Falklands surrender/EU

Honesty, goes a long way

[sidders]

It wouldn't surprise me if Tricky sees that as a positive.

Well, Adolf was honest about the Jews being the scourge of humanity and his open policy was to annihilate them so do you see that as a positive? Before responding, please think about the deeper implication of what I'm saying here... i f you're capable

[Trickytreesreds]

Well, Adolf was honest about the Jews being the scourge of humanity and his open policy was to annihilate them so do you see that as a positive? Before responding, please think about the deeper implication of what I'm saying here... i f you're capable

You need a history lesson Sid.
Hitlers rise to power had nothing to do with honesty.
He used every angle he could to gain power. He tried power speaking/ Coup d'état/ people manipulation/ force, before settling on playing on the one thing that united all Germans. Their desire to be free of outside forces and be proud again. He didn't use the jew angle on its own to gain power.
In fact it was Himler who hated the Jews the most and made it a personal obsession to exterminate them.

If you are comparing JRM with that, then you need help.
Funny how the Labour party has been accused of being anti semetic though, which you refuse to discuss. Let me help you-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36157027

[sidders]

You need a history lesson Sid.
Hitlers rise to power had nothing to do with honesty.
He used every angle he could to gain power. He tried power speaking/ Coup d'état/ people manipulation/ force, before settling on playing on the one thing that united all Germans. Their desire to be free of outside forces and be proud again. He didn't use the jew angle on its own to gain power.
In fact it was Himler who hated the Jews the most and made it a personal obsession to exterminate them.

If you are comparing JRM with that, then you need help.
Funny how the Labour party has been accused of being anti semetic though, which you refuse to discuss. Let me help you-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36157027

Hmmm, should have known you weren't capable of understanding my point. As for your patronising lesson on the causes of Hitler's rise to power, I had studied that in depth before you were even on the planet.

[TheBlackHorse]

... so you will know, El sid, that the future/proposed undemocratic EU fits perfectly with the old 'Dolf vision for his Socialist Europe under German control.
I see the Merkel toyboy, Macron, can't resist keeping out of the action ... he' so cool isn't he ... by asking us for more 'detail' (classic stalling technique). Think we should tell him to crawl back under his stone.

[tarquinbeech]

... so you will know, El sid, that the future/proposed undemocratic EU fits perfectly with the old 'Dolf vision for his Socialist Europe under German control.
I see the Merkel toyboy, Macron, can't resist keeping out of the action ... he' so cool isn't he ... by asking us for more 'detail' (classic stalling technique). Think we should tell him to crawl back under his stone.

Macron has enough to do controlling the French Loony Left (as predicted by Tony I think, rioting on the streets)....without meddling in the EU negotiating stance.....the most unpopular French President since... Chirac in 1995

Independent - The drop was the biggest decline in popularity for a French president since Jacques Chirac in 1995.

He has also suffered lower popularity ratings than his predecessor Francois Hollande, who himself was extremely unpopular.

French government spokesman Christophe Castaner said Mr Macron's En Marche! party was going through a difficult time, but added that displeasing some people was a price worth paying if the government wanted to push through reforms.

"Yes, we are encountering difficulties, but you cannot just spend your time only looking at polls when you're in government.

Strange how, in the race to keep out Le Pen....the Left ended up shooting themselves in les pieds.

Wiki - According to Amnesty International, the state of emergency that has been in place since the November 2015 Paris Attacks has been used to clampdown on protests with authorities using emergency powers to stop protests related to the Labor law reforms 574 times.

[tarquinbeech]

Macron has enough to do controlling the French Loony Left (as predicted by Tony I think, rioting on the streets)....without meddling in the EU negotiating stance.....the most unpopular French President since... Chirac in 1995

Independent - The drop was the biggest decline in popularity for a French president since Jacques Chirac in 1995.

He has also suffered lower popularity ratings than his predecessor Francois Hollande, who himself was extremely unpopular.

French government spokesman Christophe Castaner said Mr Macron's En Marche! party was going through a difficult time, but added that displeasing some people was a price worth paying if the government wanted to push through reforms.

"Yes, we are encountering difficulties, but you cannot just spend your time only looking at polls when you're in government.

Strange how, in the race to keep out Le Pen....the Left ended up shooting themselves in les pieds.

Wiki - According to Amnesty International, the state of emergency that has been in place since the November 2015 Paris Attacks has been used to clampdown on protests with authorities using emergency powers to stop protests related to the Labor law reforms 574 times.

.....and some video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAacg4PIvv8

[Elite_Pie]

what did I say.
He laid it on a plate. No secrets, just his opinion.
You or I may not agree with it. But it is in the open.

Honesty, goes a long way

A Jihadist is open about his loathing of western values - they lay it on a plate, no secrets, just their opinion, out in the open.

Do you respect them for their honesty, or do you only respect honest far right opinions?

[tarquinbeech]

A Jihadist is open about his loathing of western values - they lay it on a plate, no secrets, just their opinion, out in the open.

Do you respect them for their honesty, or do you only respect honest far right opinions?

But he doesn't Elite....he pretends to be a young asylum-seeker, gets into the country, is given food and shelter, education, maybe a place with an older couple as his foster parents.....then makes a bomb and places it on the Underground.

There are hundreds of them, even the Guardian ran a piece the other day (the BBC the week before) detailing the hundreds more "lined up" to cross the Turkish border to infiltrate Europe......trained killers that will find there way into society and strike when the dust settles.

We've got 50 years of bombings to come, cars driven into passers-by, knives and machetes......thank goodness they cannot get guns into the UK....yet.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...hoping-to-flee

French officials have said privately that they would rather that nationals who travelled to join Isis died on battlefields and have no plans to support those who now want to return. Other European states have expressed similar sentiments.

[Elite_Pie]

If I was to like to see anyone lead, it would probably be Jacob Rees Mogg.
At least he tells it how it is, whether you like him or not.
He has principles, that most folk would hide to score points.

Yeah, good old Jacob, the principled, honest politician and staunch anti-abortionist.

Unless there's a few quid to be made of course! From your favourite paper:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/458605...abortion-drug/