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    A majority voted Remain in London, where the majority of immigrants go, Liverpool, Leeds, Manchester, Leicester, Newcastle and Glasgow just to name a few places.

    But yeah Boston and maybe Rotherham voted to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    A majority voted Remain in London, where the majority of immigrants go, Liverpool, Leeds, Manchester, Leicester, Newcastle and Glasgow just to name a few places.

    But yeah Boston and maybe Rotherham voted to leave.

    Leave %
    South East 52%
    London 40%
    North West 54%
    East 56%
    South West 53%
    West Midlands 59%
    Yorkshire 58%
    Scotland 38%
    East Midlands 59%
    Wales 52%
    North East 58%
    Northern Island 44%

    So remain areas are London, Scotland and Northern Ireland, hope that helps BFP

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    Quote Originally Posted by forwardmagpie View Post
    Leave %
    South East 52%
    London 40%
    North West 54%
    East 56%
    South West 53%
    West Midlands 59%
    Yorkshire 58%
    Scotland 38%
    East Midlands 59%
    Wales 52%
    North East 58%
    Northern Island 44%

    So remain areas are London, Scotland and Northern Ireland, hope that helps BFP
    He won't listen, his head is so far up his arse, it needs a bin liner round it

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    Quote Originally Posted by forwardmagpie View Post
    Leave %
    South East 52%
    London 40%
    North West 54%
    East 56%
    South West 53%
    West Midlands 59%
    Yorkshire 58%
    Scotland 38%
    East Midlands 59%
    Wales 52%
    North East 58%
    Northern Island 44%

    So remain areas are London, Scotland and Northern Ireland, hope that helps BFP
    Thanks for backing my point up. See difference between "London" and "South East" and have a good think about where in particular most of the immigrants might be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Nope, I'm afraid it isn't. I say it how it is.
    You still didn't answer my question. After your slur on our people about Poles (seeing as there is over a million of them here). You gave no answer to Poland's stance on immigration.

    Over to you Camrade
    Your post fully justifies my post re subtlety. There's no nuance when you post, is there? Elite says you're thick and I've never gone along with that but he may well be right.
    Please point out my 'slur' because I was not aware of one. And I did answer re Poland's stance on immigration by inference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    A majority voted Remain in London, where the majority of immigrants go, Liverpool, Leeds, Manchester, Leicester, Newcastle and Glasgow just to name a few places.

    But yeah Boston and maybe Rotherham voted to leave.
    Nottingham - White British....... 81% in 2001.........65.42% in 2011......a staggering fall in the ethnic White British %age in Nottingham......would you agree?

    So if the ratio is 65/35, and I'm not seeing any race riots or gang wars etc.......can we agree that they are "living, working, socialising"?

    Brexit Vote - 59,318 Remain and 61,343 Leave......ie IMO, White British can see what is happening THERE IS A TIPPING-POINT approaching where they will be outnumbered by the time of the 2021 Census.....so they use UKIP/Brexit to "fight back"

    BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.....London has already reached a "tipping point"....where huge areas are deemed "spot the White Man"......so once they have passed the tipping point of 50%ish......obviously they will vote for more of the same....ie MORE IMMIGRATION....POWER IN NUMBERS....non-white councillors, non-white police, non-white MPs....non-white Mayor of London

    Here is a piece from the BBC explaining the "unique problem of London"

    Analysis by BBC London Political Editor Tim Donovan

    London has found itself very much at odds with much of the country.

    Big wins for Remain in inner London boroughs did not to give Remain the kind of momentum it needed to make a difference in the result nationally.

    The final result is something approximating to 60% favouring remain, 40% for leave and of course it raises interesting questions about the capital's relationship with the rest of the country.

    The key thing for London is that it has bucked the national trend; it will be seen increasingly in terms of its difference with the rest of the country.

    And for some it is not just an academic question, it is a question about whether London needs more powers and control of its own finances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidders View Post
    Your post fully justifies my post re subtlety. There's no nuance when you post, is there? Elite says you're thick and I've never gone along with that but he may well be right.
    Please point out my 'slur' because I was not aware of one. And I did answer re Poland's stance on immigration by inference.
    Ok lets dumb this down to Liberal levels.

    YOU slur the population and anti Polish.
    There is over a million Poles here. Bound to cause some friction.
    Poland, has made it quite clear, that it will not accept an influx of migrants that the EU is trying to impose.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7741236.html

    it sounds to me, a case of pot/kettle/black
    But us Brits are always the ones to be slurred first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds View Post
    Ok lets dumb this down to Liberal levels.

    YOU slur the population and anti Polish.
    There is over a million Poles here. Bound to cause some friction.
    Poland, has made it quite clear, that it will not accept an influx of migrants that the EU is trying to impose.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7741236.html

    it sounds to me, a case of pot/kettle/black
    But us Brits are always the ones to be slurred first.

    Funny you say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    As with Brexit, people in Germany generally voted for anti-immigration parties in regions there isn't much immigration. As with Brexit, where people socialise, work for and alongside immigrants, parties with a more centrist approach won the day.

    Not for the first time, the usual suspects on here are talking absolute rubbish.
    Well, I can tell you regarding Frankfurt / Essen / Bavaria, one of the Platforms at Frankfurt train station was turned into a refugee reception centre for when refugees arrived, they were then shipped to at least one ex US army base in Hanau that was in mothballs and was re opened to house the ' refugees '. Interestingly Hanau already has a large Turkish population. (At Hanau train station there's a board with photos and stories of how the Jews were shipped from there to concentration camps, really sobering when you're standing there and knowing what went off where you were standing) The Germans I know in some way feel the same way some of us do here, that we are losing our identity and the values / traditions that we and they have grown up with. Intergration is difficult for both sides and surprisingly it seemed more for some reason for the Turks there.

    I go to the US a fair bit with work and for all their faults there's one thing I really like, and that's they have pride in their country and who they are, US flags in people's gardens, businesses etc, NASCAR races the national anthem plays and everyone stops hand on hearts while it plays. Airport boarding, serviceman and veterans first etc, for all their faults they know who they are and what they are, their past and values and that's I think the problem is in europe. I think people think their identities are being diluted and voting AfD etc is their way of trying to protect those values.

    Personally, after working and living in europe and being an 'Auslander' I can see both sides. Security, identity and immigration are big issues on the continent, the EU situation could be eased if physical borders were re-introduced to ease people's fears.

    Not a lot as been said about the Italians but the ones I know are even more pissed off than the Germans, they have no work, the country is a gateway for immigrants (in their eyes)
    Interesting times for the future in europe.

    PS As for Sid's thing with the Poles, again working with Germans, Czechs etc as a rule of thumb the further east you go the worse the racism / intolerance is. From what I've seen we are very tolerant as a nationality. People use the N word as a matter of course over there, I've been genuinely shocked to how racism is so open and accepted over to the east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    Thanks for backing my point up. See difference between "London" and "South East" and have a good think about where in particular most of the immigrants might be.
    So immigrants in London voted remain - shock

    If you think these back up your point you are as out of touch as Sid

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