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Thread: Rowett Needs Time To Build Derby

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    Rowett Needs Time To Build Derby

    Rowett speaks to Sky Sports about how brutal it is being a manager in the Sky Bet Championship and how he needs time to adjust to get things right at Derby and do what other managers before him couldn’t do and he is amazed that he is the third longest serving manager at Derby and he has only been under the helm for 6 months.

    Also he talks about other English managers like Sean Dyche & Eddie Howe should be given more credit for the hard work that they put in to the modern game.


    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...tingham-forest

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    I should imagine it would take many years to build Derby, what with planning consents and getting the builders in etc.

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    Rowett is amazed that he iscthe third longest serving manager at Derby?? I think he was making a joke mate but that seems to have flown way over your head 😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger_ramjet View Post
    Rowett is amazed that he iscthe third longest serving manager at Derby?? I think he was making a joke mate but that seems to have flown way over your head ��
    You will need to define joke Rog.

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    So he sits just after Jimmy Methven and George Jobey as the third longest serving Derby County manager. Interesting

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    This thread does highlight the fundamental problem with this poster. if he just copies and pastes with no credit to the original author that is wrong. If he just posts a link and no comment, that is essentially spam; if he adds his own comment together with the link he inevitably misunderstands the content and adds inaccurate tripe of his own - eg the Rowett 3rd longest manager, but also the strange phrase "under the helm".

    Therefore he is in between a rock and a hard place - simply copy and stand accused by us of plagiarism or add his own opinion and thus misinterpret what is being said in the linked article. We should be sympathetic to his plight .....

    TECHNICAL NOTE

    A person in charge of a ship might be said to be "at the helm" but being "under the helm" would be a breech of IMO MSC/Circ.982 which included the Guidelines on Ergonomic Criteria for Bridge Equipment and Layout. Furthermore SOLAS V regulation 22 that governs navigation bridge visibility would be significantly compromised by being underneath the ship's wheel. Some of the more modern containerships do have flexible bridges which can be moved when navigating in tight spaces, but even then the captain would never find himself under the helm with its attendant visibility problems.

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    [QUOTE=DerbyDaDream;38676381]Rowett speaks to Sky Sports about how brutal it is being a manager in the Sky Bet Championship and how he needs time to adjust to get things right at Derby


    A long term plan isn't being helped by the signings he has made..Davies.hudds.Nugent ledley are not building a team they are stopgap add giving bent and Baird contracts to that too..if you are building for the future you buy young and mould them into a team .the players we are signing will have to be replaced every Couple of years .we need to build a team not 11 good players on a pitch who look like
    never met before

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    [QUOTE=Salopian0;38676580]
    Quote Originally Posted by DerbyDaDream View Post
    Rowett speaks to Sky Sports about how brutal it is being a manager in the Sky Bet Championship and how he needs time to adjust to get things right at Derby


    A long term plan isn't being helped by the signings he has made..Davies.hudds.Nugent ledley are not building a team they are stopgap add giving bent and Baird contracts to that too..if you are building for the future you buy young and mould them into a team .the players we are signing will have to be replaced every Couple of years .we need to build a team not 11 good players on a pitch who look like
    never met before
    I agree we need to add more younger additions to the squad we have an overaging squad with the average age of 28 and the team that played recently against Bristol City were the average age of 30 or over.

    We need fresher, pace and drive and you will get that with younger players but at the moment our squad is aging and all those traits have gone out of the window and that is something Rowett will have to change in January.

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    [QUOTE=DerbyDaDream;38676609]
    Quote Originally Posted by Salopian0 View Post

    I agree we need to add more younger additions to the squad we have an overaging squad with the average age of 28 and the team that played recently against Bristol City were the average age of 30 or over.

    We need fresher, pace and drive and you will get that with younger players but at the moment our squad is aging and all those traits have gone out of the window and that is something Rowett will have to change in January.
    Except Rowett is saying that the focus will be on getting players out as he wants to slim the squad and reduce the wage bill. Plus up to now he has added older players saying that the squad needed experirnced players who had been there got the T shirt with regards to promotion.

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    I have zero confidence for the florest game with the players we have, we are going up against a young florest side whomay be starting to find their feeta little, esp with the passing style theyve implemented under Warburton, its been a good solid start for them imo, cant put a sequence together because its a relatively new mentality being bedded in,, but i guarantee theyll finish above us this season,, because sadly we have slow players with not much fight and only here for a final payday

    Rowett does need time, this season needs to be a write off imo, get the deadwood out and building fir the future,, but giving new contracts to baird bent etc isnt filling me with great confidence tbh.

    4/1 for florest to win on sunday is great value though, and ive had 30 quid on it happeneing to cushion the blow of a loss.

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    Except Rowett is saying that the focus will be on getting players out as he wants to slim the squad and reduce the wage bill. Plus up to now he has added older players saying that the squad needed experirnced players who had been there got the T shirt with regards to promotion.[/QUOTE]

    Would you have a guess what wages Davies Huddleston Ledley and Nugent on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salopian0 View Post
    Except Rowett is saying that the focus will be on getting players out as he wants to slim the squad and reduce the wage bill. Plus up to now he has added older players saying that the squad needed experirnced players who had been there got the T shirt with regards to promotion.
    The focus is still getting rid of the fringe players who Rowett sees is not in the long term future of the club. You need a mixture of experience and youth to grind out good results on the pitch on a consistent basis and currently we only have experienced players in the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerbyDaDream View Post
    The focus is still getting rid of the fringe players who Rowett sees is not in the long term future of the club. You need a mixture of experience and youth to grind out good results on the pitch on a consistent basis and currently we only have experienced players in the squad.
    You think? Not really true...unless you think Lowe, Hanson, Lawrence, Thorne, Winnall, Wisdom, Weimann, Vydra and Bennett are all older and experienced in their early to mid twenties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    You think? Not really true...unless you think Lowe, Hanson, Lawrence, Thorne, Winnall, Wisdom, Weimann, Vydra and Bennett are all older and experienced in their early to mid twenties.
    But how many of them are first team regulars .2 of the 9 maybe which would suggest we start games with 9 players over 26

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salopian0 View Post
    But how many of them are first team regulars .2 of the 9 maybe which would suggest we start games with 9 players over 26
    Team average age is 28 and the average age group should be around 24 at the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerbyDaDream View Post
    Team average age is 28 and the average age group should be around 24 at the least.
    Suppose you're right when you said to give rowett a chance to mould a team in January . Maybe just me but can't see a team being created at the moment

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    Vydra has played for Udinese in Calcio A and has also guided Watford to promotion to the PL from the Championship and has a vast experience playing in the PL with Watford as well so he is an experienced player.

    Weimann has played in the PL with Aston Villa and has tons of PL experience.

    Thorne also has PL experience playing for West Brom.

    Lawrence again has PL experience with Leicester City

    Wisdom with RB Salzburg, Norwich City in the PL, West Brom & Liverpool.

    Winnall has FL experience with Barnsley, S****horpe & Sheffield Wednesday.

    Bennett, Lowe & Hanson are the only three players from the youth development that has been in and out of the squad but hardly get a touch in the starting 11 but Bennett is the most experienced out of the other two having played a part in numerous Championship games and cup competitions to get some vast experience so he should have picked up a few pointers there.

    Would like to see more youth players breaking through and making an appearance for themselves in the side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerbyDaDream View Post
    Vydra has played for Udinese in Calcio A and has also guided Watford to promotion to the PL from the Championship and has a vast experience playing in the PL with Watford as well so he is an experienced player.

    Weimann has played in the PL with Aston Villa and has tons of PL experience.

    Thorne also has PL experience playing for West Brom.

    Lawrence again has PL experience with Leicester City

    Wisdom with RB Salzburg, Norwich City in the PL, West Brom & Liverpool.

    Winnall has FL experience with Barnsley, S****horpe & Sheffield Wednesday.

    Bennett, Lowe & Hanson are the only three players from the youth development that has been in and out of the squad but hardly get a touch in the starting 11 but Bennett is the most experienced out of the other two having played a part in numerous Championship games and cup competitions to get some vast experience so he should have picked up a few pointers there.

    Would like to see more youth players breaking through and making an appearance for themselves in the side.
    So they're young...but have some experience. Isn't that what you wanted?

    Might not all be first team choices but they're all match day squad regulars, Salopian, with the possible exception of Lowe and Hanson and the former certainly will be, imo, if he ever manages to stay injury free.
    A fit Thorne, who I think is still only 24, and a fit Lowe (20) would both be almost guaranteed a starting place.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 14-10-2017 at 09:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salopian0 View Post
    Suppose you're right when you said to give rowett a chance to mould a team in January . Maybe just me but can't see a team being created at the moment
    Nothing is going to be created at this exact moment because that’s an unrealistic target. It’s a long term target that slightly started over the summer and will make more of a bigger process in January.

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    Have to laugh at the ones who say we need younger players They are the same ones if put kids in and lost a few matches would be on here in a flash demanding Rowetts head What youngsters did Newcastle and Brighton have last season Suppose it depends if you want promotion or not The most successful Championship manager is Warnock and he says you can't get promotion with kids

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