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Thread: How Far We Have Fallen

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    How Far We Have Fallen

    I am now firmly in the get rid of McKinnon camp and although the following post is by no means all his fault (in fact very little of it is), it got me thinking of our current status and the aftermath of our sales spree of January 2015. I am still amazed/hurt/surprised at how far we have fallen in the past period of a little less than 3 years. Looking into it I am reminded of the first half of season 2014/2015 up to the end of January 2015. The difference between this period and the remainder of that season and what we have had to endure since is staggering. During the aforementioned period we topped the Premier League, cuffed the FUN 4 - 1 at Dens, 6 - 2 at Tannadice and put them out of the League Cup. We got to the League Cup final beating Aberdeen in the Semi, beat Celtic at Tannadice and were still high in the League at the end of January. The standard of football on display was scintillating at times during long win streaks and all was well in my footballing world.

    The remainder of that season was bad enough losing to Celtic in the cups and to Dundee in the League but we still finished a comfortable 5th in the League, it is the dross we have had to endure the next season, last season and now up to date this season, where we seem clueless as to how to get back to our proper place in Scottish Football. I do not think we have a chance of promotion with the current manager and if I am, hopefully, proved wrong I will gladly eat my words.

    Leaving aside all the statistics of wins etc., league position etc. the difference in the standard of football from late 2014 to now, only 3 years for goodness sake, is absolutely staggering and I truly despair as to ever seeing such stuff, as we saw then, again. I have never felt so low as a United supporter so Mr. Thompson, if in the unlikely event of you reading this post, firstly get shot of that total numpty McKinnon and then do the honourable thing and resign yourself. Your stewardship of our beloved club over the past 3 years has been appalling.

    Lastly if there is any white knight out there waiting, don't wait too long; we need you now before our club sinks even further into the mire.

    PS To all the happy clappers out there, you know who you are, spare me the "its not as bad as all that" routine or "give McKinnon to Xmas" crap we are in serious trouble now!!!

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    Fair City Middle Eastern Subject, you are merely committing to print what most Shedmen are wrestling with in their minds. Middle Eastern Sanitary Technician frequently posts here to remind us of our plight, but despite his clarion calls, the decline continues. Some even court denial , as though we will soon wake up from a bad dream. No matter who we bring in or what we do, it is my firm belief that as long as the Club is in the stranglehold of the Thompson regime, that is exactly what will become of our Club.

    'McKinnon out,' though a highly understandable viewpoint, is in my view, a distraction from the main root of the problem. McKinnon may not get us promotion, but Thompson is steering us towards oblivion.

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    So ST is listening to you and the others on here and walks away. Who then is tasked with meeting any shortfall and running the club or do you all just kind of hope someone will do it.

    If there is viable alternative then your comments are completely irrelevant.....

    What exactly is the alternative if ST walked away today?. Please tell me what happens next and what is the plan for the rest of the season........

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefutureistangerine4 View Post
    So ST is listening to you and the others on here and walks away. Who then is tasked with meeting any shortfall and running the club or do you all just kind of hope someone will do it.

    If there is viable alternative then your comments are completely irrelevant.....

    What exactly is the alternative if ST walked away today?. Please tell me what happens next and what is the plan for the rest of the season........

    The future is bleak if ST DOESN'T walk away! You can mump on about the rest of the season/ promotion, etc, but the real crux is the future of our Club. I can't understand your reasoning, i.e. 'if there is a viable alternative (to ST?) then our comments are completely irrelevant?'

    I would suggest that with each passing day, whilst ST remains in charge, DUFC are becoming increasingly irrelevant in Scottish Football. Perhaps that is one reason why there are no obvious alternatives to him?

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    Well maybe better than the alternative we've got rather than the alternative we HAVEN'T got.
    Think about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmedDUm View Post
    Well maybe better than the alternative we've got rather than the alternative we HAVEN'T got.
    Think about it.
    still rather be an arab than a bnb 45 years and the wait goes on and on and on

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    Dundee United FC aren't Dundee United FC any more. It feels like the Sword of Damocles is hanging over Tannadice, the Coup de Gras soon to be delivered. Does anyone see a stay of execution rather than a steady decline towards oblivion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM1971 View Post
    Dundee United FC aren't Dundee United FC any more. It feels like the Sword of Damocles is hanging over Tannadice, the Coup de Gras soon to be delivered. Does anyone see a stay of execution rather than a steady decline towards oblivion?
    we will always be dundee united fc fact get a grip lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefutureistangerine4 View Post
    So ST is listening to you and the others on here and walks away. Who then is tasked with meeting any shortfall and running the club or do you all just kind of hope someone will do it.

    If there is viable alternative then your comments are completely irrelevant.....

    What exactly is the alternative if ST walked away today?. Please tell me what happens next and what is the plan for the rest of the season........
    I feel that if there are any genuine white knights out there, they will only show face when Thompson is gone. The right thing for him to do is to offer his shares free to anyone who has the funds to make a difference at Tannadice. Often in these situations a buyer uses all his funds buying the club leaving none for ongoing investment. That we do not need as it would be little different than the current situation. Over to you Mr T go and go now, not forgetting to take McKinnon with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one team in city View Post
    we will always be dundee united fc fact get a grip lol
    Third Lanark supporters probably thought there would always be a Third Lanark!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pertharab View Post
    Third Lanark supporters probably thought there would always be a Third Lanark!
    who

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    I've been reading but not posting this last week or two because I'm scunnered with the whole thing tbh.

    It's such a mess and so disappointing. No idea what to say really.

    What I do know is we should be winning this league from the front ie now, not "in the mix" or "lets see where we are at christmas"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pertharab View Post
    I feel that if there are any genuine white knights out there, they will only show face when Thompson is gone. The right thing for him to do is to offer his shares free to anyone who has the funds to make a difference at Tannadice. Often in these situations a buyer uses all his funds buying the club leaving none for ongoing investment. That we do not need as it would be little different than the current situation. Over to you Mr T go and go now, not forgetting to take McKinnon with you.
    As I posted a few weeks back it seems likely that there may be an interested buyer but they are holding their money and waiting for a fire sale, and right now that looks the most likely change scenario. Which is bleak. We must be racking up significant operating losses. ok all this is guesswork but if we fail to get promoted this season I can't see where the money is coming from to balance the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    I've been reading but not posting this last week or two because I'm scunnered with the whole thing tbh.

    It's such a mess and so disappointing. No idea what to say really.

    What I do know is we should be winning this league from the front ie now, not "in the mix" or "lets see where we are at christmas"
    Agree totally phissed off with the ****e we're watching. In the games we lose its not as we've been unlucky either and there keeper has played a blinder and been MOM. The games we do win are usually a struggle and it's not as if we play them off the park. We create very little and frankly the team bore the phuck out of me at times.
    To be fair it's not just United , I am getting disillusioned with football and certainly don't have the same interest I did 10 years ago.
    Maybe it's an age thing.

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    As was debated at length is a previous thread, if all our various supporters groups had laid egos to one side and United under one banner, maybe there would be more pressure on ST than what there is.

    Something needs to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    As was debated at length is a previous thread, if all our various supporters groups had laid egos to one side and United under one banner, maybe there would be more pressure on ST than what there is.

    Something needs to change.
    Will never happen.

    Relegation wasn’t serious enough for the groups to put aside egos and work as one.

    Only by working together. As one group. Can it work.

    Will probably take admin to get them to get together but even then there’s too much personal fiefdoms and personality clashes for that to seriously happen.

    As elected fans representatives go there’s not one group that gives me any confidence. And so it will be all up to ST what happens next. He’s in complete control of the club’s future.

    And as for white knights. Waiting for a fire sale is risky as you’d potentially end up taking on a club that may have defaulted on loans and lost the stadium and the GA as assets.

    I don’t see the use in waiting. If they’re that interested they’d make their moves.

    I don’t think there is anyone out there seriously with the will to take on the club.

    But as you say. Something needs to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PortugueseFrank View Post
    Will never happen.

    Relegation wasn’t serious enough for the groups to put aside egos and work as one.

    Only by working together. As one group. Can it work.

    Will probably take admin to get them to get together but even then there’s too much personal fiefdoms and personality clashes for that to seriously happen.

    As elected fans representatives go there’s not one group that gives me any confidence. And so it will be all up to ST what happens next. He’s in complete control of the club’s future.

    And as for white knights. Waiting for a fire sale is risky as you’d potentially end up taking on a club that may have defaulted on loans and lost the stadium and the GA as assets.

    I don’t see the use in waiting. If they’re that interested they’d make their moves.

    I don’t think there is anyone out there seriously with the will to take on the club.

    But as you say. Something needs to change.


    I know next to nothing about the various fans groups, etc., and it looks like I am well blessed for that. However, Iberian Person who speaks Openly and Frankly, appears to opine very wisely. 'Waiting' could be our death knell, even though there is an absence of a viable alternative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefutureistangerine4 View Post
    So ST is listening to you and the others on here and walks away. Who then is tasked with meeting any shortfall and running the club or do you all just kind of hope someone will do it.

    If there is viable alternative then your comments are completely irrelevant.....

    What exactly is the alternative if ST walked away today?. Please tell me what happens next and what is the plan for the rest of the season........
    You think ST is meeting any shortfalls the club have??

    Tell you what, see the shower of **** we currently call a football team, folk like you deserve it.

    CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Danny_Dyer View Post
    You think ST is meeting any shortfalls the club have??

    Tell you what, see the shower of **** we currently call a football team, folk like you deserve it.

    CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP
    And coming onto a forum to mock fans that have supported this club their whole lives benefits anyone how...? Its far easier to mock and ridicule than come up with answers to any of the questions.

    So if I am right the answer to the question i have posed is that we get rid of the manager and chairman tomorrow and just hope there is some multi millionaire just waiting around hoping he will be invited to sink all his millions into Scottish football. Is that plan? And its based on the foolproof proposition that there just must be someone.......

    You may call me a happy clapper (not sure what thats based on as I am as unhappy about the current position as any of you) but at least I believe in logic and reason rather the nonsense some of you are spouting

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefutureistangerine4 View Post
    And coming onto a forum to mock fans that have supported this club their whole lives benefits anyone how...? Its far easier to mock and ridicule than come up with answers to any of the questions.

    So if I am right the answer to the question i have posed is that we get rid of the manager and chairman tomorrow and just hope there is some multi millionaire just waiting around hoping he will be invited to sink all his millions into Scottish football. Is that plan? And its based on the foolproof proposition that there just must be someone.......

    You may call me a happy clapper (not sure what thats based on as I am as unhappy about the current position as any of you) but at least I believe in logic and reason rather the nonsense some of you are spouting
    Why would we need a multi millionaire to come in?

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