How Far We Have Fallen

[SmedDUm]

Finances aside, most fans were either happy with Ray's appointment or at least willing to give him some time based on his reasonably decent ascent from the juniors through the lower leagues.

However his tenure has by and large produced utterly depressing and abysmal performances, with no sign of imminent improvement.

The even more depressing belief is that we still haven't hit rock bottom.

If/when Ray gets sacked then there will at least be some hope....hope that ST randomly and flukily makes the right appointment.

Or, it gets even worse....

There's negativity & there's negativity and then there's your post GP.
'We still haven't hit rock bottom'.
Is that a prediction or what? You make it sound like a certainty.
Can you not even give us the benefit of doubt, could we not have hit rock bottom last Saturday?
But you believe there's worse to come, any idea when that will be?

[stokearab]

There's negativity & there's negativity and then there's your post GP.
'We still haven't hit rock bottom'.
Is that a prediction or what? You make it sound like a certainty.
Can you not even give us the benefit of doubt, could we not have hit rock bottom last Saturday?
But you believe there's worse to come, any idea when that will be?

Has it not even crossed your mind that we might NOT GET PROMOTED this season?????

Would that qualify in your world as being worse?

[Jonboy83]

Has it not even crossed your mind that we might NOT GET PROMOTED this season?????

Would that qualify in your world as being worse?

The guy is a f@kn balloon. Doesn't matter to him what happens on the pitch , he'll still clap along and pretend everything is ok and all the boo boys / haters / normal fans that can see what is happening to our club are wrong .
Can't remember if it was on here or Teks forum where he said 4 or 5 of the team that sneaked a win against the Irish mob would get in the first team !!!
Absolute mental case.

[Chick A Saw]

a more than decent enough budget to get promoted (McKinnon). You could probably treble the budget given to McKinnon and we would still be horrific, he is without a doubt the worst manager I have seen in charge of us and to a point where he has completely driven me from going to the games as I will not watch what he puts and sets up on the park.

If ST had went for a good enough manager in the first place the likely hood is those decent managers could have done more with a smaller budget.

To get up we need a good manager and a decent budget, not an absolutely sh1te manager and a good budget like we currently haave

The way i read things regarding backing the manager with the right budget seems to be widely different to others here! My thoughts on Ray aside, i dont see getting rid of so many players and replacing them with cheaper options as backing the manager.

And from what i believe about the £4m valuation is thats the price of all the shares. However, nobody who has money and in the position to solve this issue will almost certainly not want put that money into United or STs pocket!

[SmedDUm]

The guy is a f@kn balloon. Doesn't matter to him what happens on the pitch , he'll still clap along and pretend everything is ok and all the boo boys / haters / normal fans that can see what is happening to our club are wrong .
Can't remember if it was on here or Teks forum where he said 4 or 5 of the team that sneaked a win against the Irish mob would get in the first team !!!
Absolute mental case.

Gee thanks mate!
So in your book a boo boy or a hater is a normal fan?
Would hope not but maybe it is increasingly so.
Bitter bast@rds. Sad.

[GingerPetric]

There's negativity & there's negativity and then there's your post GP.
'We still haven't hit rock bottom'.
Is that a prediction or what? You make it sound like a certainty.
Can you not even give us the benefit of doubt, could we not have hit rock bottom last Saturday?
But you believe there's worse to come, any idea when that will be?

You don't half haver some pish sometimes Smeddurs! You and Shedka are the biggest optimists in the United support right now, no doubts about that.

My original line used the phrase "belief" as in there is a general belief that things will get worse before they get better, that being the case then we won't have reached rock bottom.

I feel the likely scenario is that Ray will limp along for the next few weeks or months then will be sacked IF we keep producing the same turgid schite and results that we have been treated to for the entirety of his tenure.

It's certainly not a certainty, and as I've stated many times before I hope he can and does turn things around, but on the current evidence it's not looking likely, is it?

I now fear the worst for every game, in fact I dread going up to a game now, very little enjoyment to be had.

[SmedDUm]

You don't half haver some pish sometimes Smeddurs! You and Shedka are the biggest optimists in the United support right now, no doubts about that.

My original line used the phrase "belief" as in there is a general belief that things will get worse before they get better, that being the case then we won't have reached rock bottom.

I feel the likely scenario is that Ray will limp along for the next few weeks or months then will be sacked IF we keep producing the same turgid schite and results that we have been treated to for the entirety of his tenure.

It's certainly not a certainty, and as I've stated many times before I hope he can and does turn things around, but on the current evidence it's not looking likely, is it?

I now fear the worst for every game, in fact I dread going up to a game now, very little enjoyment to be had.

'There is a general belief that things will get worse before they get better'? Have to take issue with you over that GP.
That is certainly NOT a general belief, it is a Mad belief, this is a bitter forum these days.
I happen to believe our home form will continue & our away form will improve.
Doesn't make me a bad person, just a Dundee United supporter.

[ahlltanyirhide]

'There is a general belief that things will get worse before they get better'? Have to take issue with you over that GP.
That is certainly NOT a general belief, it is a Mad belief, this is a bitter forum these days.
I happen to believe our home form will continue & our away form will improve.
Doesn't make me a bad person, just a Dundee United supporter.

Aye, but not a 'normal' Dundee United supporter

[Its Basher]

Some great posts.Just revelling in the anguish.Oh smug ones,its time to suffer emotional hardship.
Heres a thought to cheer you up.
There is no bottom.Just down down down down.Tee Hee Hee

[GingerPetric]

Some great posts.Just revelling in the anguish.Oh smug ones,its time to suffer emotional hardship.
Heres a thought to cheer you up.
There is no bottom.Just down down down down.Tee Hee Hee

So Basher, please tell us all, we are desperate to know.

Have your team been schite, trophyless wonders all of your life, or are you old enough to revel in the glory of '73?

Also do you view the heady days of 2017 as one of the highlights of your Fun following career?

When is the stadium getting built? Who the phuck is paying for it?

Is buying back your current stadium part of the strategy?

Please answer, all us here at United Mad love, absolutely love to hear your bairney, boring as phuck pish, it's what most of us keep checking the site for.....