Should we always refer to that era as the Taylor/Clough years?

[Romanis]

Looking at the McGovern thread got me back to a favourite topic - the Clough years.

And then to Peter Taylor. The point being would Clough be as good sans Taylor? I think the impact Taylor had cannot be disregarded. He was pivotal. No doubt his status was assistant manager but neither he nor Clough considered it as such.
Clough was at pains to remind all of Taylor's importance and insisted he got the same pay.

Especially for Derby's initial years under Clough. Taylor's presence, foresight and foil for Clough was instrumental in promotion, style of play and league championship.

At Forest, again he reprised the role, remember Forest were 18 months in 2nd division mediocrity under Clough before Taylor's arrival sparked the greatest period in our history.

So I think we should always refer to the period as the Taylor Clough years

[ramAnag]

Think we recognise that in Derby, Romanis...hence the statue of the pair of them. Not sure what there is at the City Ground in comparison despite Nottingham being Taylor's home city.
Probably fair to say that Clough's best days were alongside Taylor and that Taylor achieved nothing without Clough. One of football's most iconic examples of a symbiotic relationship?

[Andy_Faber]

Think we recognise that in Derby, Romanis...hence the statue of the pair of them. Not sure what there is at the City Ground in comparison despite Nottingham being Taylor's home city.
Probably fair to say that Clough's best days were alongside Taylor and that Taylor achieved nothing without Clough. One of football's most iconic examples of a symbiotic relationship?

I actually beg to differ, although I idolise the pair of them, Derby won their second championship with, IMO, a better team, won it more easily, and won it against stronger opposition, and the team was remodelled by Dave Mackay. Clough/Taylor's dearture was their choice. Dave Mackay picked up a poisoned chalice and turned it into a second holy grail.

[Oldtimeram]

Mackay made some really good signings in my opinion

[Oldtimeram]

I also agree that I think the second championship side was the stronger team

[Romanis]

Rioch, Davies and Lee were the standouts I suppose with Hector

[Andy_Faber]

Rioch, Davies and Lee were the standouts I suppose with Hector

Rioch, for a season he was unstoppable, if he'd been in the Liverpool side instead of Souness Sky would still be running two-hour specials on him every two weeks.

[ramAnag]

I actually beg to differ, although I idolise the pair of them, Derby won their second championship with, IMO, a better team, won it more easily, and won it against stronger opposition, and the team was remodelled by Dave Mackay. Clough/Taylor's dearture was their choice. Dave Mackay picked up a poisoned chalice and turned it into a second holy grail.

Not sure how you're disagreeing, or who with, Andy.

[Oldtimeram]

Rioch, Davies and Lee were the standouts I suppose with Hector

No Charlie George??

[Romanis]

No Charlie George??

Of course him, but I'm only a 1 season Rams fan...

Hahaha.