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    OT Cover Versions

    To continue from the pre existing music topic, what are people's views on cover versions?

    I tend to have a very negative outlook on them, in that they either represent someone trying to improve on an already good piece of music by changing it around: which usually results in a less acceptable version, or someone trying to "sing it the same": in which case why bother?

    I think there are a few examples of where the interpretative version of the cover work - eg UB40's version of Neil Diamond's "Red Red Wine", Hendrix's "All along the Watchtower", The Byrds "Mr Tambourine Man" and so on but by and large there is rarely an improvement to my mind. Is this because one is so familiar with an original song, that any attempt to do it differently seems intuitively inferior?

    I suspect that people will like the version that they first take to heart above other versions, and if they first experience the song as a cover they may prefer it to the original. I guess this is maybe the case with a lot of the early Stones work, which most of us children of the 60's thought were original but in reality were very much not.

    Perhaps my view is coloured by endless dreadful covers of decent music by talent show competitors, charity records or reality show crap which seem to be released simply to make money and add no artistic originality?

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    Example:

    I love this -

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAP9AF6DCu4

    My thoughts on this cannot be printed in a family forum

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDVTZrJAOaU

    Yet others will disagree - quite probably based on which one you heard first?

    Various (younger) friends and colleagues of mine were introduced to the latter via its use in a TV advert, and were startled to hear the original which they all then said they preferred.

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    Its a massively subjective subject (?), my own opinion is that on balance over the years I have preferred songs in the form I've first heard them (that's NOT quite the same as being 'the original version').

    Exceptions? Van Halen's 'You Really Got Me', Otis' 'My Girl', James Carr's 'To Love somebody', Mott the Hoople's 'All The Young Dudes'

    My last band used to do 'Valerie' both ways, the amy winehouse version in the first set sung by our femme singer and the Zutons' way second set sqwarked by me. Most people thought the Zutons' version was the cover! Belting song to sing by the way

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    Roger that Charlene Soria version is terrible insult to a great song I'm not a big fan of covers its very rare they improve the original One cover I do like is Sinad O'Connor's " Nothing comperes to you " Even Prince said he preferred it to his own

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    Here's an example of a great song just being done differently. No claims for better or worse. Makes me smile, especially as two of the band look like Gooch and Gatting and another looks like my uncle Phil

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdAyO1_0noM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_Faber View Post
    Its a massively subjective subject (?), my own opinion is that on balance over the years I have preferred songs in the form I've first heard them (that's NOT quite the same as being 'the original version').

    Exceptions? Van Halen's 'You Really Got Me', Otis' 'My Girl', James Carr's 'To Love somebody', Mott the Hoople's 'All The Young Dudes'

    My last band used to do 'Valerie' both ways, the amy winehouse version in the first set sung by our femme singer and the Zutons' way second set sqwarked by me. Most people thought the Zutons' version was the cover! Belting song to sing by the way
    Interesting that you mention "All the Young Dudes" but that is an example of one of the songs that was covered extremely well by the Stone Temple Pilots (feat Chester Bennington), in the "sing it the same" mode. Mind you it helps if you substitute Slash and Duff McKagan for Mick Ralphs and Pete Watts

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger_ramjet View Post
    Interesting that you mention "All the Young Dudes" but that is an example of one of the songs that was covered extremely well by the Stone Temple Pilots (feat Chester Bennington), in the "sing it the same" mode. Mind you it helps if you substitute Slash and Duff McKagan for Mick Ralphs and Pete Watts
    Sorry, I'll take the best of Mick (currently recovering from a stroke) and Pete RIP any day

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    Andy IronHorse been around forever they do bluegrass covers of popular albums like Metallica Guns and roses earlier this year they did Nirvana can't say I like them much But Rocket man is such a great song any version of it is passable

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    Dave Bowies Heros covered by Lemmy and Dave Bowies Man who sold the world covered by Nirvana (unplugged).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaram View Post
    Andy IronHorse been around forever they do bluegrass covers of popular albums like Metallica Guns and roses earlier this year they did Nirvana can't say I like them much But Rocket man is such a great song any version of it is passable
    Then again there is Hayseed Dixie in the same genre, here seen doing an interesting version of Black Sabbath's "War Pigs"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3peH...=RDcYJUywl7CFw

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    I think some cover versions are superb. Eg:

    Always something there to remind me by Naked Eyes

    Don't cry for me Argentina by Madonna

    And of course my current favourite I only want to be with you by Bay City Rollers.

    Incidentally, another of my favourites - American Pie by Don McClane has a cover by Madonna. It's good too. And the Don approves, probably due to the royalties Madonna paid

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    Is that the same Madonna cover version that features in several lists of the all time worst cover versions? As has been said here before there is no such thing as bad music as long as someone likes it. You have just saved Ms Ciccone from breaking that rule!

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    The there is this rather splendid cover of that good old Dead Kennedys track that the swear filter will prevent me from naming. Its not actually that bad considering its a French band! Anyone under the age of 16 is recommended not to click the link

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqYOj05jayQ

    They do sanitised covers of a load of punk songs, but like the bluegrass covers above are more satirical than anything else.

    PS In her case I would need to be very drunk....

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    So many great ones to choose from but these to me are outstanding...Gram Parsons, ‘Love Hurts’, Robert Wyatt, ‘Shipbuilding’, Jennifer Warnes, ‘Famous Blue Raincoat’, Camper Van Beethoven, ‘Pictures of Matchstickmen’ and Jimi Hendrix, ‘All Along the Watchtower’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramAnag View Post
    So many great ones to choose from but these to me are outstanding...Gram Parsons, ‘Love Hurts’, Robert Wyatt, ‘Shipbuilding’, Jennifer Warnes, ‘Famous Blue Raincoat’, Camper Van Beethoven, ‘Pictures of Matchstickmen’ and Jimi Hendrix, ‘All Along the Watchtower’.
    Nice to see Hendrix in there although I still like the original. Nice to see there's no Bay City Rollers or Middle of the Road in that line up
    !

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    Chester Bennington's cover of Adele's Rolling in the deep Is very good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manofpride View Post
    Nice to see Hendrix in there although I still like the original. Nice to see there's no Bay City Rollers or Middle of the Road in that line up
    !
    That track was in the OP !! So Ramanag has made a cover version of my post I guess

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    Sorry Rog...no plagiarism intended. Love the original but, even as a Dylan fan...love the Hendrix version even more.
    Agree too about the Byrds and frankly Id rather do most things than listen to Neil Diamond.
    Last edited by ramAnag; 14-11-2017 at 06:24 PM.

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    Just quote the source next time??

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