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Thread: O/T Petrol and diesel is finished....at last

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    O/T Petrol and diesel is finished....at last

    A fascinating night at the live Tesla launch.......the new Tesla semitruck.....500 miles on a single charge, 0 to 60 mph in 5 seconds unloaded, 20 seconds with the maximum permitted USA payload of 80,000 lbs......65mph up a 5% hill without slowing....impossible to jackknife because it has 4 independent motors, nuclear blastproof glass, 1 million miles no-breakdown guarantee, lifetime warranty on the brakes and self-driving on autopilot

    .....then the fun started, shock from the crowd and a stunned silence (I had a feeling that Elon wasn't finished because he looked so excited)

    quote "we've decided to kill off the petrol cars......when you've seen this, and driven this....why you ever go back to a petrol engine".

    The new 4-seater roadster....0 to 60 in under 2 seconds....620 miles on a single charge......250 mph top speed (he looked embarrassed)

    Wow, wow, wow.

    The roadster is shown near the end of these highlights...trucks first

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_SjAcQeU1A

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    Unfortunately:

    1: Lack Of charging points worldwide

    2: Loss of jobs in oil and petrol industries.

    3: How do you think electricity is produced?

    4: The cost of electric cars immediately prices most people out of the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keldsyke View Post
    Unfortunately:

    1: Lack Of charging points worldwide

    2: Loss of jobs in oil and petrol industries.

    3: How do you think electricity is produced?

    4: The cost of electric cars immediately prices most people out of the market.
    They probably said the same about the combustion engined car.

    1. Lack of petrol stations

    2. Loss of jobs in the horse and carriage industry

    4. The cost of cars immediately prices most people out of the market.

    And electricity CAN come from renewables.

    I know a small local company who changed their 5 delivery vans to electric and save 5k a week!

    Whilst I think fully electric cars are some way off, I doubt anyone will be driving a non hybrid or electric car in 10 years time other than antiques.

    The economics on these things change very very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keldsyke View Post
    Unfortunately:

    1: Lack Of charging points worldwide

    2: Loss of jobs in oil and petrol industries.

    3: How do you think electricity is produced?

    4: The cost of electric cars immediately prices most people out of the market.
    5: The silent approach of these vehicles is deadly. Many people, and not just the elderly, listen before they look when crossing the road. Of course we could have somebody walking in front, waving a red flag and papping a hooter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Don_ORiordan View Post
    They probably said the same about the combustion engined car.

    I know a small local company who changed their 5 delivery vans to electric and save 5k a week!
    Nearly everyone had their milk delivered in the morning by electric vehicles 60 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaxtonLad View Post
    5: The silent approach of these vehicles is deadly. Many people, and not just the elderly, listen before they look when crossing the road. Of course we could have somebody walking in front, waving a red flag and papping a hooter.
    I love creeping up on folks in Tesco and Sainsbury's car parks in my Prius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keldsyke View Post
    Unfortunately:

    1: Lack Of charging points worldwide

    2: Loss of jobs in oil and petrol industries.

    3: How do you think electricity is produced?

    4: The cost of electric cars immediately prices most people out of the market.
    Hundreds and thousands of charging stations are being built every week.......powered by Solar....once the solar panels are up, it's practically unlimited free power.....the new Electric Highway is being built across Europe......hundreds of thousands of new jobs being created, and more in the future, converting gas stations to electric charging points.

    The price of EVs is comparable with petrol already and as every single manufacturer now has EV models being built, the prices will drop further....add in free solar power from your garage roof at home, or charging points at work...it's a no-brainer IMO.

    The new Solar Roadway in Korea......AWESOME....the sky's the limit....literally

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flg6eYSpYkg

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarquinbeech View Post
    Hundreds and thousands of charging stations are being built every week.......powered by Solar....once the solar panels are up, it's practically unlimited free power.....the new Electric Highway is being built across Europe......hundreds of thousands of new jobs being created, and more in the future, converting gas stations to electric charging points.

    The price of EVs is comparable with petrol already and as every single manufacturer now has EV models being built, the prices will drop further....add in free solar power from your garage roof at home, or charging points at work...it's a no-brainer IMO.

    The new Solar Roadway in Korea......AWESOME....the sky's the limit....literally

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flg6eYSpYkg
    .....then we go one stage further

    (a)......all glass products in buildings and cars, feeds power back into the Grid or your car battery

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ__PjmC6Fg

    (b) ....every roofing product will collect the sun's energy and either feed back into the grid or your own home's Powerwall (a wall of batteries built into the building)

    Elon Musk explains again....all this technology is already there and it's growing exponentially

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sfwDyiPTdU

    (c) Once every car is a mobile battery, every roof and glass window is collecting power and storing it, every home has a Powerwall.....there is no need for traditional Power Stations.

    Quite simply, your roof feeds my car, my windows feed your Powerwall, the office blocks feed the electric trams and buses.....everything is already connected but now the power is effectively free......all the "spare" free power goes around and around in a continual "free" loop......all we need to do is maintain the system and keep adding to it to make it stronger.

    It is a frightening new World that we have suddenly discovered.

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    You really are a joke, Beechy. You hate the EU with a passion and champion the spread of electric vehicles. Can you not see how EU togetherness would spread this cause exponentially whereas separately it will be a bumpy and protracted ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarquinbeech View Post
    .....then we go one stage further



    (c) Once every car is a mobile battery, every roof and glass window is collecting power and storing it, every home has a Powerwall.....there is no need for traditional Power Stations.


    Quite simply, your roof feeds my car, my windows feed your Powerwall, the office blocks feed the electric trams and buses.....everything is already connected but now the power is effectively free......all the "spare" free power goes around and around in a continual "free" loop......all we need to do is maintain the system and keep adding to it to make it stronger.

    It is a frightening new World that we have suddenly discovered.
    You'd better start shipping it over from Mexico then because there's been precious little sun here today, dark by 4pm and don't expect too much till after 9am tomorrow.

    And somehow you've missed out the requirements of industry, but never mind, no-one's going anywhere 'cause their cars won't go, and if they do they'll run out of battery with their lights and heating - oh scrub that, not enough power for heating.

    A very frightening new World indeed.

    (Note to self - look up Lithium production and disposal).

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