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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by canarydon View Post
    The VAR system as it currently stands, with the rule changes, will destroy football as a spectacle, as everything that happens in the box will need to be reviewed.

    They have already had to ask IFAB for a relaxation to the foot on the line at penalties rule as its entirely possible that a gk can be sent off after first two penalties. Joke. Especially when they don't have goal-line technology in place, or even a camera that can see along the line.

    They would be better looking at what is already in place for other sports and adopting them and tweaking them to suit. The system that hockey uses at the top level is great, each team gets one referral for a decision in the 'box' affecting a goal scoring/preventing opportunity. If you win your referral you keep it to use again, otherwise it is gone and you may regret it later in the game. Football could easily adopt that system but tweak it to one each half, and an extra one in extra time and again for penalties.

    Shouldn't be too difficult to adapt existing technologies/systems in use in other sports - there are loads of other examples - rugby union, tennis, cricket - all of which have their benefits that could be used.
    Totally agree. I thought when VAR came in is was going to be a challenge based system, not this looking at every single incident. It means refs get lazy as they know VAR will pick it up later. Same with the linesmen not putting their flags up. It totally distorts the game.

    It should be 2 challenges per team. The challenge can only be made by either the captain or manager. The challenge is looked at by the 4th official at the dugout screen, nae a control room. Game is restarted as per new drop ball rule.

    Much simpler and a hell of alot cheaper than the current version

  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by canarydon View Post
    The VAR system as it currently stands, with the rule changes, will destroy football as a spectacle, as everything that happens in the box will need to be reviewed.

    They have already had to ask IFAB for a relaxation to the foot on the line at penalties rule as its entirely possible that a gk can be sent off after first two penalties. Joke. Especially when they don't have goal-line technology in place, or even a camera that can see along the line.

    They would be better looking at what is already in place for other sports and adopting them and tweaking them to suit. The system that hockey uses at the top level is great, each team gets one referral for a decision in the 'box' affecting a goal scoring/preventing opportunity. If you win your referral you keep it to use again, otherwise it is gone and you may regret it later in the game. Football could easily adopt that system but tweak it to one each half, and an extra one in extra time and again for penalties.

    Shouldn't be too difficult to adapt existing technologies/systems in use in other sports - there are loads of other examples - rugby union, tennis, cricket - all of which have their benefits that could be used.
    This is the point - there is nothing fundamentally wrong with VAR. Its getting blamed for things that are f'uck all to do with VAR.

    The recent rule changes are the issue in the wifies WC (& the abysmal wifie refs ). The goalie keeping a foot on the line rule and the new hand ball rules are just f'uckin stupid & were clearly agreed by folk who've never played the game in their puff. All agreed at the Marcliffe in Aberdeen earlier this year I believe incidentally .

    From what I've seen, VAR has actually got the vast majority of these decisions right when used - its the rules causing the decisions that are s'hite.

    VAR is new, it needs to evolve & suggestions like only giving teams a set number of referrals etc are worth considering.

    The bottom line is that it will help correct many (not all) errors made by officials & for that fact alone its worth having. Anyone saying otherwise is just a luddite who should still live in a cave...

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    VAR is just a TV replay, there is nothing fancy or hi tech about it.

    The problem is that some refs are stupid, and it's those refs looking at TV replays who are the problem. That Dutch pen yesterday, the ball didn't even hit the Jap girls arm, but it's not VARs fault, it's the refs fault for being an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jupiter View Post
    VAR is just a TV replay, there is nothing fancy or hi tech about it.

    The problem is that some refs are stupid, and it's those refs looking at TV replays who are the problem. That Dutch pen yesterday, the ball didn't even hit the Jap girls arm, but it's not VARs fault, it's the refs fault for being an idiot.
    The ref was just following the new rules,its the new rules that are the problem,there will be a record amount of pens awarded this season if the rules are enforced by the refs

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