The handball vidio

[soulman101]

http://www.punditarena.com/football/...-vs-west-brom/
Would the comentator said that if it us.

[Johnny on the spot 1]

It was hand ball soul tell him to look in the morning papers .

[goodlordmurphy]

What an idiot that commentator is...so it's alright to chest the ball and then guide the ball into the net with your arm......plonker.

[curlybaggie]

It's called football, not armball, intent shouldn't even come into it, if the ball goes in the net off the hand or arm it's a foul, whether it's accidental or deliberate. If it had been at the other end they wouldn't even be discussing it, it would have just been seen as handball.

[goodlordmurphy]

It was arm to ball should have been sent off...that other cheating 'handball expert Baros' used to play for the dippers didn't he?

[holmleighchris]

It's called football, not armball, intent shouldn't even come into it, if the ball goes in the net off the hand or arm it's a foul, whether it's accidental or deliberate. If it had been at the other end they wouldn't even be discussing it, it would have just been seen as handball.

Ah, but it's not Curly. Accidental handball isn't a foul. Neither are 50% of the fouls given for tackles nowadays, if the contact isn't a deliberate attempt to foul then it isn't a foul. Refs just take the easy option.
As for last night the Scouse player had his arms outstretched with intent to control the ball with his arm therefore it was legitimately ruled out. You don't run around with your arms out like that do you?
Thought the ref was very good all through last night.

[Leicesterbaggie]

Of course it was handball. The player diverted it past Foster with his arm, deliberate or not.

[Johnny on the spot 1]

Lads Going to put this one to bed for good , they watched it on match of the day last nite Alan Shearer & Danny Murphy X Liverpool & both agreed that the decision to disallow the goal was the right one & they must of seen it more times than us , then this morning on sky sports Dermot Gallagher X referee on ref watch said it was a good spot by the linesman & absolutely the correct one ! Just moaning big boys not having it their own way ,

[holmleighchris]

Of course it was handball. The player diverted it past Foster with his arm, deliberate or not.

That's not correct. If the handball is not deliberate then it's not a foul. Never has been, hopefully never will be.
However, last night the lad had his arms stretched out, for me that says he is looking to play the ball with his arm so the decision was correct.

[curlybaggie]

That's not correct. If the handball is not deliberate then it's not a foul. Never has been, hopefully never will be.
However, last night the lad had his arms stretched out, for me that says he is looking to play the ball with his arm so the decision was correct.

The thing is, is that only one person really knows if it's deliberate or not, and that's the player, and it's obvious what he is going to say. I get what you say about the rules Chris, but I personally think that if the ball is diverted into the goal by the hand or arm, then I think the benefit of the doubt should be given to the defending team, as the referee or linesman can't really be 100% sure if it was intended or not, there are some very clever players about when it comes to cheating.