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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goalposter View Post
    I never accused you of those though.
    Not saying you have. But it has been known

    In all honesty I joined here in 2009 when I started going offshore to fill in time and it works.

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by Goalposter View Post
    Proven years ago.

    Why are you all banging on about his effectiveness from yesteryear.

    Do you actually want us to move forward or not?

    Baffling.
    Did Rooney take his chance against Thistle???

    Would you rather we took a chance that Maynard may have also taken that chance?

    Do you want us to progress and "move forward". What a baffling statement from you.

    Next.

  3. #143
    I wanted Maynard to get 70 minutes v partick.

    If shyte then bin.

    He needs a decent chance.

    Rooney has had plenty and scores 1 in every 5 games on average.
    To me this isnt good enough.
    We NEED A NEW STRIKER.

    Keep Rooney..keep Maynard if he proves himself in just 1 game against lesser opposition.if not..bin.

    Its really obvious.i want what's best for AFC too.

    Rooney is far far too ineffective this season.

    Id love him to get more goals.

    Rooney also missed a sitter.

    Who knows if Maynard or May wouldve got into that position.
    Who knows if Maynard would have scored more.
    We certainly wont find out if he plays the last 10 minutes whereas we have found out Rooney HAS been ineffective most games thiz season with 18 hours of football.
    Last edited by Goalposter; 29-12-2017 at 09:03 AM.

  4. #144
    Rooney scored the winning goal before the 70min mark.

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    I heard from an ex colleague of Maynard that he was the most natural finisher he had ever seen. I got excited about that when he signed. I'm sure a goal would give him a major boost but he hasn't really had a crack. Dare I say "theres a player in there somewhere". But then again how many times does that get reeled oot. Hes the kind of player that will move on and probablly bang them in

  6. #146
    Maynard is either shyte or McInnes thinks hes shyte. If that wasnt the case, hed be in the team.

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Goalposter View Post
    Rooney HAS been ineffective most games thiz season with 18 hours of football.
    Rooney scored the other night.
    He also had a goal disallowed.
    He got in positions to score if picked out by teammates.
    He also created space for others.

    Maynard was presented with a great chance v Hibs the other game and he dillies and dallied until the defender got back to block the effort. Rooney would have got his shot away earlier

    Your criticism of Rooney is unjust.

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by rico94 View Post
    He didnt only score 6 goals from January till the end of the season he scored 9 goals,20 goals for the season and the 3rd season in a row where he has scored at least 20 goals.

    His goals have given us a lot of wins over the years and before he came here games like last night were usually 0-0 results more than not.

    http://www.soccerbase.com/players/pl...&season_id=149
    I didn't claim he only scored 6, I said he scored in 6 games (out of 23). When a player's contribution otherwise is so little that he only justifies selection when he scores I think it's valid to look at how many games he scores in. That's 17 games where he would have contributed little.

    There are various issues looking at Rooney's stats I think:

    1. The way his goals per game ratio has significantly dropped in the past couple of seasons. IMO this invalidates arguments that he should be being played because of his goals/game ratio since he came to the club - he's not the same player as the one who was scoring prolifically before.

    2. Yes 20 goals for last season is an impressive headline stat. When you dig deeper, though, it doesn't look so great. 5 pens, so 15 outfield goals from 52 appearances. His goals tend to be clustered together, often in easy wins against lesser opposition (2 against Stranraer, 3 in the the Motherwell rout). In his final 17 games last season he scored 4 times.

    Normally I'm not a big fan of judging a striker purely on his goals stats, I think you have to look at the overall contribution. But the Rooney of the past couple of seasons is so often a near-passenger in terms of his general play that he can only be picked on the basis of scoring goals. For me at least he's not doing it often enough.

  9. #149
    Maynard started 3 or 4 games early in the season and looked bang average at best against relatively weak opposition. He ran about a lot though.

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by DollyLongstaffe View Post
    I didn't claim he only scored 6, I said he scored in 6 games (out of 23). When a player's contribution otherwise is so little that he only justifies selection when he scores I think it's valid to look at how many games he scores in. That's 17 games where he would have contributed little.

    There are various issues looking at Rooney's stats I think:

    1. The way his goals per game ratio has significantly dropped in the past couple of seasons. IMO this invalidates arguments that he should be being played because of his goals/game ratio since he came to the club - he's not the same player as the one who was scoring prolifically before.

    2. Yes 20 goals for last season is an impressive headline stat. When you dig deeper, though, it doesn't look so great. 5 pens, so 15 outfield goals from 52 appearances. His goals tend to be clustered together, often in easy wins against lesser opposition (2 against Stranraer, 3 in the the Motherwell rout). In his final 17 games last season he scored 4 times.

    Normally I'm not a big fan of judging a striker purely on his goals stats, I think you have to look at the overall contribution. But the Rooney of the past couple of seasons is so often a near-passenger in terms of his general play that he can only be picked on the basis of scoring goals. For me at least he's not doing it often enough.
    Absolutely this^^^

    I dont see what fans here aren't getting.

    I make valid points and get treated like some ignorant idiot lol.

    Well said Dolly for seeing his lack of contribution too.

    Its blatant.

    We all like Rooney ok but to simply back him because he had 3 brilliant seasons for us 2 years ago is understandable but hypocritical.

    Everyone else gets pelters for performing sub par.

    Why not Rooney?

    Fact is we need strikers who can SCORE.

    not 1 is doing that on a regular basis.we all know that so surely all of them need to be questioned as to why theyre getting a game or not.

    Maynard isnt the only weak link therefor.

    Mcginn will hopegully make a difference to these guys hitting the back of the net.

    Here's hoping.

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Goalposter View Post

    Well said Dolly for seeing his lack of contribution too.

    Its blatant.
    Do you think Rooney contributed other than scoring against Partick?

  12. #152
    Hard to comment.i only watched the highlights for THIS match. Xmas is a busy time.
    From what others have said on both afc forums though, he wasnt that influential.
    Whats your thoughts?

    Sounds like Maynard wouldve done the same job in that game.

    Rooney if sharper may have got onto the end of that 6 yard cross and buried it.who knows.

  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Goalposter View Post
    Hard to comment.i only watched the highlights for THIS match. Xmas is a busy time.
    From what others have said on both afc forums though, he wasnt that influential.
    Whats your thoughts?

    Sounds like Maynard wouldve done the same job in that game.

    Rooney if sharper may have got onto the end of that 6 yard cross and buried it.who knows.
    I thought Rooney had a very influential game.
    Scored a goal, had another disallowed.
    Drop deep and linked in with the midfield, pulling the Centre Backs out of position to allow the midfield to run beyond and into the space.
    Still managed to get back up and support.
    Took the ball out of the air at one point with a deft backheel into Shinnie.

    Not convinced Maynard would have been as influential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afc1903mad View Post
    I thought Rooney had a very influential game.
    Scored a goal, had another disallowed.
    Drop deep and linked in with the midfield, pulling the Centre Backs out of position to allow the midfield to run beyond and into the space.
    Still managed to get back up and support.
    Took the ball out of the air at one point with a deft backheel into Shinnie.

    Not convinced Maynard would have been as influential.
    Agreed, it was probably his best link up play of the season. He’s not Harry Kane, but neither is he Darren Mackie. He is our best striker.

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    Himin Goalposter! That's about the most impressive troll I've ever seen on here.

    5 pages of posts arguing about Maynard deserving a chance. Chapeau son!

    Anyone with a working pair of eyes has seen since July that the chunt is 100% f@@king useless and will be gone in January ....

  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Landvetter83 View Post
    Himin Goalposter! That's about the most impressive troll I've ever seen on here.

    5 pages of posts arguing about Maynard deserving a chance. Chapeau son!

    Anyone with a working pair of eyes has seen since July that the chunt is 100% f@@king useless and will be gone in January ....
    Oh so ur a troll if you think Rooney hasnt been very effective this season and think Maynard needs more of a chance?

    Ahhh I see.

  17. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by afc1903mad View Post
    I thought Rooney had a very influential game.
    Scored a goal, had another disallowed.
    Drop deep and linked in with the midfield, pulling the Centre Backs out of position to allow the midfield to run beyond and into the space.
    Still managed to get back up and support.
    Took the ball out of the air at one point with a deft backheel into Shinnie.

    Not convinced Maynard would have been as influential.

    Fair enough afc.

    Thanks for replying with decent comments and not outright abuse.

    Nice to see someone can make a point without resorting to utter bollox


    And to the other poster...if Rooney is our best striker then we have huge problems.

    Id rather see McGinn back there where he had his best season EVER for us or anyone else.

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