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  1. #41
    The PA system actually sounds fine in the Pavis stand (at least in the middle where i sit). It was cutting out during one of the announcements during the last game but that was more likely down to needing some fresh batteries in the handheld mic or it simply losing signal, nowt to do with the speakers

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by DelroyFacey22 View Post
    If someone with more time and effort than me would like to work out how much people paying on the gate for the games so far with the deals he's done have paid compared to the price season ticket's work out at that'd be useful to see, I'd imagine us ST holders are still paying less.
    Based on someone paying for every game -20 per game with 4 discounted tickets. Rough figures below.

    They would pay about 60 more than a season ticket holder in the Kop.

    They would pay about 10 more than a season ticket holder in the Pavis.

    Also season ticket holders get additional benefits.

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  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by DelroyFacey22 View Post
    The PA system actually sounds fine in the Pavis stand (at least in the middle where i sit). It was cutting out during one of the announcements during the last game but that was more likely down to needing some fresh batteries in the handheld mic or it simply losing signal, nowt to do with the speakers
    As you are sat sitting in the middle of the Pavis Stand, DF22, when the man with the pretty illuminated board showing substitutes numbers and minutes for extra time comes out and flashes his board, will you shout and ask him to actually pause when he faces it towards the Kop as I sometimes blink and miss him flashing.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by LaxtonLad View Post
    As you are sat sitting in the middle of the Pavis Stand, DF22, when the man with the pretty illuminated board showing substitutes numbers and minutes for extra time comes out and flashes his board, will you shout and ask him to actually pause when he faces it towards the Kop as I sometimes blink and miss him flashing.
    You want to see him flashing?

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by CmonUSexyStylishPies View Post
    Based on someone paying for every game -20 per game with 4 discounted tickets. Rough figures below.

    They would pay about 60 more than a season ticket holder in the Kop.

    They would pay about 10 more than a season ticket holder in the Pavis.

    Also season ticket holders get additional benefits.
    60 is therefore equivalent to 3 games. As i would probably miss a couple each season it is edging towards not being worth it.
    What are these additional benefits of which you speak ?

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by puddingking View Post
    We need to look after the older hard-of-hearing fans in the DP first. I'd suggest better speakers or earhorns for D block before any money is spent on the Kop
    Apparently we are still losing 1.6 squillion a year, despite attendances being up 60% and pre~match catering "through the roof" from 30 odd people previously to 350 now.....an extra 100k into the losses column is not high on the list of AH......Charlie quipped in "you must be paying too much in match bonuses"......makes you wonder how Accy and Morecambe survive on crowds of 365 plus a dog?

    Interesting that Burton are actually making a profit of 1.35 million despite paying Championship wages

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41650536

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by tarquinbeech View Post
    Interesting that Burton are actually making a profit of 1.35 million despite paying Championship wages

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41650536
    Could have something to do with the fact that Burton, like all Championship clubs, get a payment from the EFL of 6+m each season.

    Take that away and they'd be losing 5m a year.
    Last edited by 60YearsAPie; 12-01-2018 at 12:56 PM.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by LaxtonLad View Post
    As you are sat sitting in the middle of the Pavis Stand, DF22, when the man with the pretty illuminated board showing substitutes numbers and minutes for extra time comes out and flashes his board, will you shout and ask him to actually pause when he faces it towards the Kop as I sometimes blink and miss him flashing.
    I'm usually busy shouting obscenities at him when he shows the added time to be fair...

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by 60YearsAPie View Post
    Could have something to do with the fact that Burton, like all Championship clubs, get a payment from the EFL of 6+m each season.

    Take that away and they'd be losing 5m a year.
    ......and most of the "parity payments" go on wages surely.......2 years ago the average wages in the Championship were 324,250 compared to 40,350 in League 2....multiply that by a squad of 20 and that is the 6 million spondullix down the swannee.

    My point is that arguably a smaller club than Notts are making a decent fist of surviving 2 divisions higher than us......it can be done

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by tarquinbeech View Post
    ......and most of the "parity payments" go on wages surely.......2 years ago the average wages in the Championship were 324,250 compared to 40,350 in League 2....multiply that by a squad of 20 and that is the 6 million spondullix down the swannee.

    My point is that arguably a smaller club than Notts are making a decent fist of surviving 2 divisions higher than us......it can be done
    I can't see Burton paying that sort of money on wages. Having said that, I agree that there's no reason why Notts shouldn't survive (which is all Burton are doing) at Championship level.

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by tarquinbeech View Post
    Apparently we are still losing 1.6 squillion a year, despite attendances being up 60% ..
    Attendances up doesn't equate to improved gate receipts. We're doing 2 tickets for Crewe and my view is that many who pay full on the day will save a lot and a few will take advantage of a cheap match not to be seen again till the next offer. Need 10 people to pay for one normal and someone's saying we need to attract people who could not normally afford - what kind of business is that? Charity?

  13. #53
    It would help if we actually played well when we put on these offers and there's a bigger attendance.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by ReadWarbler View Post
    60 is therefore equivalent to 3 games. As i would probably miss a couple each season it is edging towards not being worth it.
    What are these additional benefits of which you speak ?
    You're a season ticket holder so surely you know the benefits as these are detailed when you purchase it.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    Attendances up doesn't equate to improved gate receipts. We're doing 2 tickets for Crewe and my view is that many who pay full on the day will save a lot and a few will take advantage of a cheap match not to be seen again till the next offer. Need 10 people to pay for one normal and someone's saying we need to attract people who could not normally afford - what kind of business is that? Charity?
    People aren't going to come to one or perhaps two or three cheap games and be converted and that's it. Alan Hardy is no fool, he knows this and he knows he needs to keep these folk wanting more, it's his money and he budgets for short term losses and what's more it's working, slowly, yes, but he and Nolly know what they're doing. With the recent signings of two new players - there maybe more - and the return of Noble, I'm expecting a bumper crowd against Crewe which should offset the low ticket prices.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by tarquinbeech View Post
    Apparently we are still losing 1.6 squillion a year, despite attendances being up 60% and pre~match catering "through the roof" from 30 odd people previously to 350 now.....an extra 100k into the losses column is not high on the list of AH......Charlie quipped in "you must be paying too much in match bonuses"......makes you wonder how Accy and Morecambe survive on crowds of 365 plus a dog?

    Interesting that Burton are actually making a profit of 1.35 million despite paying Championship wages

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41650536
    Attendances are up but we also give tickets away every game to school kids. We've also dropped ticket prices so that means lower income.

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    Attendances up doesn't equate to improved gate receipts. We're doing 2 tickets for Crewe and my view is that many who pay full on the day will save a lot and a few will take advantage of a cheap match not to be seen again till the next offer. Need 10 people to pay for one normal and someone's saying we need to attract people who could not normally afford - what kind of business is that? Charity?
    My guess is that AH was genuinely worried that we had lost our core support of 5,000ish.....he needed to get these back plus build for the future.....once we get back to a solid 6,500 plus, he can ease up on the offers and start banking the full money......as Del states, it would help if we could stick 3 or 4 past Crewe and get the neutrals to return for more......speculate to accumulate

  18. #58
    Let's say we got 50 new semi-regular fans for each fixture they put an offer on. Doesn't sound significant, but over 10 games in a couple of seasons that would be 500, a fair percentage of our average.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by CmonUSexyStylishPies View Post
    You're a season ticket holder so surely you know the benefits as these are detailed when you purchase it.
    A free drink and bring a friend for free. I'm a Notts season ticket holder, i have no friends
    Interesting that the details also include a "price promise" that you will see the games at the cheapest price. I'm sure Mr Hardy will have had someone do the sums to make sure this promise is kept.

    Only having a bit of fun as I buy my ticket each year to follow my team. It also gets me out of all those Saturday afternoon shopping trips with the Mrs, worth every penny.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by tarquinbeech View Post
    My guess is that AH was genuinely worried that we had lost our core support of 5,000ish.....he needed to get these back plus build for the future.....once we get back to a solid 6,500 plus, he can ease up on the offers and start banking the full money......as Del states, it would help if we could stick 3 or 4 past Crewe and get the neutrals to return for more......speculate to accumulate
    1) We have lost a core support, but not through ticket cost

    2) Agreed that getting people through the gate is a step towards improving attendance in the long run providing:

    3) We put on a performance. It is not that long ago I started a thread pointing out that the bigger the gate the worse we perform

    4) I also was commenting on the tweet that AH liked and retweeted, namely:

    "This is giving a great opportunity to people who wouldn't be able to afford to go normally. "

    and saying why are we trying to attract people would can't afford to go normally? Surely we should be attracting people who can afford to go normally otherwise what is the point?

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