27 Games into the season...

[Rev72]

I’m more concerned about the man who is choosing the players for TC, our owner appears to give him (Orta)full control on who comes in, with the exception of Saiz and maybe Alioski Ekuban (jury still out for me)are we stronger than last season? Klich Cibicki wiedwald Lasogga Grot, are they improvements? The game plan of foreign unknowns for value isn’t any different than what Cellini did albeit slightly better standard. Most of the starting 11 were here previous seasons. We haven’t brought in any proven quality from within the championship. TC can only work with the tools he has, Orta is more the problem for me

Tend to agree Stiff..makes you wonder just what the f*ck is going off behind closed doors.

A lot of Ortas signings have been pretty poor and a waste of money..a lot to be said for buying 'proven' quality.

[thestiffler]

Another penny dropping.

Not really, never been happy with Orta’s appointment, prefer managers to decide on players, Orta wasn’t exactly successful at Boro either

[WTF11]

Not really, never been happy with Orta’s appointment, prefer managers to decide on players, Orta wasn’t exactly successful at Boro either

Agreed on all counts

[Rev72]

Suppose when the manager isn't allowed to bring in his own players his hands are mainly tied and he has to work with what he is given.

Not the way I want us to be run 'on the field' to be honest.

Get a manager in who you think his judgement can be trusted and back him!

[WTF11]

Suppose when the manager isn't allowed to bring in his own players his hands are mainly tied and he has to work with what he is given.

Not the way I want us to be run 'on the field' to be honest.

Get a manager in who you think his judgement can be trusted and back him!

Never going to happen with the current owner/board composition

[Rev72]

One things for sure and that's Orta's judgement is very suspect!

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

One things for sure and that's Orta's judgement is very suspect!

To be fair we have also signed some decent players along the way

Siaz
Cibiski
Jannsen
Ayling
Roofe
Okane (despite this weekends stupidity)
Felix (I will put my tin hat on)
Dallas
Beradi


in his first season a few had doubts about Beradi but he is now one of our better consistent performers. Vierra and Phillips need time. Cooper is coming good in a more settled squad.

if signing players was easy and they all worked out then all teams would consistently play decent football. The instant gratification of smart phones and social media does not translate to real life.

[WTF11]

To be fair we have also signed some decent players along the way

Siaz
Cibiski
Jannsen
Ayling
Roofe
Okane (despite this weekends stupidity)
Felix (I will put my tin hat on)
Dallas
Beradi


in his first season a few had doubts about Beradi but he is now one of our better consistent performers. Vierra and Phillips need time. Cooper is coming good in a more settled squad.

if signing players was easy and they all worked out then all teams would consistently play decent football. The instant gratification of smart phones and social media does not translate to real life.

Sorry Rev, the thread and the criticism is mainly about who has been brought in since Ortas arrival......pick out the two or three (you missed Alioski BTW), who have been anything close to an acceptable part of a Leeds 1st team squad. The rest of his trawl have been just about as embarrassing as they can be!