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Thread: Clarification of offside needed.

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    Clarification of offside needed.

    With the new technology about to take over we need to know how much of a player needs to be offside for him to be called offside. Last night half of Barry's body was off. What if it had just been his arm, or part of one leg?
    It needs putting in black and white to avoid any confusion.

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    It would have gone in anyway because Mignolet have given up on it.

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    I felt the VAR was wrong on that one. It was said a while back that there had to be some "daylight' between the players to be given. Half your torso should not be classed as offside.

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    They said in the aftermath that the keeper was being impeded too but what I saw was Mignolet pushing Barry in the back get the VAR...penalty to us...

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    I don't think you can say Barry wasn't interfering for that goal, just would like to know what is going to be called offside in the future. I'd say all the player has to be off. Just so long as we know so it is universal.
    Be good to see those little tugs like the one which cost us the penalty disappear as well. The dive was theatrical just to get the refs attention but the tug did happen and could have been costly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmleighchris View Post
    I don't think you can say Barry wasn't interfering for that goal, just would like to know what is going to be called offside in the future. I'd say all the player has to be off. Just so long as we know so it is universal.
    Be good to see those little tugs like the one which cost us the penalty disappear as well. The dive was theatrical just to get the refs attention but the tug did happen and could have been costly.
    In all honesty Barry was offside, it is any part of the body that can score a goal, plus he did take a swipe at the ball so offside, just that bloody annoying time wasting waiting for someone the other side of the world watching a TV to make a decision when we were in the driving seat.

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    VAR ref was Andre Marriner the villa fan,who gave Chelsea that non penalty

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman101 View Post
    VAR ref was Andre Marriner the villa fan,who gave Chelsea that non penalty
    That revelation just ups the credit our boys deserve, playing against extra men.

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    VAR was used against us to great effect. Every effort was made to punish us at every opportunity.
    We all want a fair game so let’s hope the system analyses all the big clubs as well with such enthusiasm and does not become a tool to legitimatise the bias officials often show to the big clubs.

    Mr Marriner has previous with us remember

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbaliquidator View Post
    VAR was used against us to great effect. Every effort was made to punish us at every opportunity.
    We all want a fair game so let’s hope the system analyses all the big clubs as well with such enthusiasm and does not become a tool to legitimatise the bias officials often show to the big clubs.

    Mr Marriner has previous with us remember
    I believe the FA appologised for the Chelsea debacle and said he was a late choice because of illness or something like that...why then do they let the same ref adjudicate from afar?

    One thing that my son has picked up on is that when VAR has been used the 'smaller' clubs do not get a look in...he noticed this when Fleetwood played Leicester...it was Leicester that got all the VAR....so come on FA get it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodlordmurphy View Post
    I believe the FA appologised for the Chelsea debacle and said he was a late choice because of illness or something like that...why then do they let the same ref adjudicate from afar?

    One thing that my son has picked up on is that when VAR has been used the 'smaller' clubs do not get a look in...he noticed this when Fleetwood played Leicester...it was Leicester that got all the VAR....so come on FA get it right.
    It is logical that the big clubs will get the more calls . Last night the possession was 68-32%. I don't think they called any of them wrong. The own goal stood after they had had a look at it, and the other decisions were correct so Marriner did nothing wrong.
    Whilst it will produce a fairer game I did find it darn annoying.

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    All of the decisions that were arrived at by VAR were correct. However, do we want the farcical situation that we witnessed at last night's game, week in, week out. If it stops the obviously poor decisions, all well and good, but it must not interfere with the flow of the game as it did last night. If the referee is unsure he should refer it to the fourth official who makes the decision and only overturns it if obviously wrong. That decision shound be immediate. I haven't got all the answers but to my mind it needs much more further thought before it is adopted.

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    My understanding is the VAR official brings it to the attention of the ref who then looks at a screen replay before making the final decision. For last night's penalty the ball went straight out of play so there was an immediate stoppage of play and so an immediae review (which then took 3 mins.)

    If the ball had stayed in play for a few minutes would there have been a review? Imagine the controversy if say we had gone to the other end and got a corner, a free kick or a goal.

    I don't like taking the final decision from the ref but if this is to work the bloke with the screen has to make the decision straight away. I think!

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