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    I didn't realise how many!

    I didn't realise that we had so many players out on loan. 17 players on loan I think it's time to start a car boot!


    Players out on loan!

    Jacob Butterfield – Sheffield Wednesday

    Craig Bryson – Cardiff City

    Timi Max Elsnik – Swindon Town

    Kellan Gordon – Swindon Town

    Calum Macdonald – Barrow

    Nick Blackman – Maccabi Tel Aviv

    Henrich Ravas – Gainsborough Trinity

    Matthew Taylor – Gainsborough Trinity

    Max Lowe – Shrewsbury Town

    Charles Vernam – Grimsby Town

    Callum Guy – Bradford City

    Offrande Zanzala – Accrington Stanley

    Emil Jakobsen – VVV Venlo

    Jason Shackell – Millwall

    Darren Bent – Burton Albion

    Chris Martin – Reading

    Mason Bennett – Notts County

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    We are one short of completing a starting 11 and sub bench incredible.

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    A bit light in goalkeepers though. Wasnt Luke Thomas going on loan to somewhere in Scotland too, or was that another bit of twitter fake news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger_ramjet View Post
    A bit light in goalkeepers though. Wasnt Luke Thomas going on loan to somewhere in Scotland too, or was that another bit of twitter fake news?
    Luke Thomas was going to St Johnstone but as you know from the Steele deal Derby like to change their minds on deals at the last opportunity and the deal ends up not going over the line. Typical really...

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    Stopped him going when Lookman deal collapsed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manofpride View Post
    I didn't realise that we had so many players out on loan. 17 players on loan I think it's time to start a car boot!


    Players out on loan!

    Jacob Butterfield – Sheffield Wednesday

    Craig Bryson – Cardiff City

    Timi Max Elsnik – Swindon Town

    Kellan Gordon – Swindon Town

    Calum Macdonald – Barrow

    Nick Blackman – Maccabi Tel Aviv

    Henrich Ravas – Gainsborough Trinity

    Matthew Taylor – Gainsborough Trinity

    Max Lowe – Shrewsbury Town

    Charles Vernam – Grimsby Town

    Callum Guy – Bradford City

    Offrande Zanzala – Accrington Stanley

    Emil Jakobsen – VVV Venlo

    Jason Shackell – Millwall

    Darren Bent – Burton Albion

    Chris Martin – Reading

    Mason Bennett – Notts County

    Out of all the players mentioned is there any value there ( possible transfer fees for the club)

    No hardly anything, and with our ageing squad we haven't got much in the way of assets in the first team squad either
    I would say that's rather worrying
    Martin looks like nobody wants to commit to buying him the 8 million banded about is a non starter
    In the summer we will be lucky to get a million
    as for the first team Vydra maybe worth what we paid the rest not much at all due to their age and length of contracts
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaram View Post
    Stopped him going when Lookman deal collapsed
    Why most deals go one way to the other the unpredictability of transfer deadline day. Madness!

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    The main reason that a lot of deals appear to swing one way, then the other, is because many of them never existed in the first place. The intrusive nature of social media and, to a lesser extent, conventional media such as TV, means that news has to be created to "feed the wolf". Consequently deals are magicked up, tweeted, retweeted and all of a sudden become "fact" when they may have simply been made up by a bored 16 year trying to big himself up as "in the know".

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger_ramjet View Post
    The main reason that a lot of deals appear to swing one way, then the other, is because many of them never existed in the first place. The intrusive nature of social media and, to a lesser extent, conventional media such as TV, means that news has to be created to "feed the wolf". Consequently deals are magicked up, tweeted, retweeted and all of a sudden become "fact" when they may have simply been made up by a bored 16 year trying to big himself up as "in the know".
    No! Roger the reason a lot of deals go one way to the other is that clubs can’t agree on terms, the player has second thoughts and want’s to move elsewhere or stay at his current club and clubs looking for alternative options to a deal that went bust.

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    Also correct - but it was ever thus. Clubs and players (and agents) will always have differences of opinion, get close to a deal, back off again, renegotiate etc. But all that was behind closed doors. It always went on, but not until recently under the social media spotlight that it is now: it always went on but was not bandied about by the ignorant masses the way it is now.... which creates the impression that there is a deal, then there isn't, then its back on again and there are people out there that lap it up and suddenly a "discussion" becomes a "deal" in the minds of the reader who then retweets it as fact etc.

    Journalists by and large would operate within a code of practice that meant the "news" being reported was vaguely correct. That doesnt exist in social media where any idiot can say what he or she likes, and other idiots believe it implicitly as fact, because they saw it on twitter/instagram/facebook etc

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