OT - Tom Daley is having a baby!

[Romanis]

If you haven't heard:

https://news.sky.com/story/tom-daley...-baby-11250324


Pray tell what's the world coming to?

Look I have no objections in people being gay, lesbian or transgender. No objection in what kind of ***ual activity they prefer. No objection them getting married and enjoying the benefits that the Law provides for married couples.
But surely one must draw the line at certain things.

Adoption is a tricky thing I accept. Would it be better to have an orphaned kid live with an LGBT couple rather than live in children's home that cannot provide the right kind of environment? Or even a kid living in poverty elsewhere, whose parents want a better life for him/her and offer the child for adoption? And the LGBT couple is the best one available to provide this? Ok perhaps in some circumstances, yes.

However, look at the way Daley goes about this. It's Valentine's, hooray I'm gonna have a baby!

Does an unborn child have no rights to a mother? Or if the couple was lesbian, to a father?

Can Daley and partner provide the necessary parental love, beyond just material means?
What about the kid growing up? How does he cope or explain his 'family position'?
Isn't this a bit too traumatic for kids to deal at such an early age?

Ok what about a kid that's a bit older in some poor part of the world that gets adopted by such a couple?
You might ask does he deserve to live in squalor or live with such a couple that can provide a better life?
Well at least the kid's a bit older and can and should be given a choice to say yes or no. And if he can give it there and then, then at least the question must be available to him when he's much older and can make a determination.

I'm not saying an LGBT couple can't adopt, but I don't think they should be allowed with kids at such young ages and certainly not with babies. They can still provide the help needed, even the love with actual permenant possession of the child until the child is better equipped to make the choice. A minimum age of say 14-16 should be the barometer.

Daley's decision is good for him but is good for the child?
The choice of being gay is personal and a person's right to make. But being gay is also accepting that for reasons that nature/God has made, that you accept that you cannot make kids. It's wrong to tip or change natural procreation laws just to suit your choice.

[roger_ramjet]

Ask Adam Macey and Ian Craig

[DCFCArmy]

Its sick

100 years ago these pair would have had the s h I t knocked out of them, not anymore though, they can do as they like and we have to keep quiet about it or else.

I don't think we can allow this to carry on for much longer tbh, and the bbc need shutting down end of story, they've long since gone past the point of no return. society is all wrong and its down to platforms like the mainstream media, these people pushing this c r a p are simple.

[ramAnag]

Its sick

100 years ago these pair would have had the s h I t knocked out of them, not anymore though, they can do as they like and we have to keep quiet about it or else.

I don't think we can allow this to carry on for much longer tbh, and the bbc need shutting down end of story, they've long since gone past the point of no return. society is all wrong and its down to platforms like the mainstream media, these people pushing this c r a p are simple.

For someone who has to ‘keep quiet or else’ you seem to be making quite a lot of ‘noise’.
I understand that it all takes some getting used to, but before you start calling things ‘sick’ let’s remember that there are an awful lot of hetero***ual parents who aren’t up to the ‘job’ and that the vast majority of ***ual abuse perpetrated by adults towards children is hetero***ual in nature...Catholic priests apart of course, but then doubtless they’d share in your bigotry.

[DCFCArmy]

You defending this rama makes me think your a weirdo. Anyone who defends this needs a serious hammering as well imo.

[sixtiesram]

You defending this rama makes me think your a weirdo. Anyone who defends this needs a serious hammering as well imo.

So an idiot on here who advocates violence on someone for an opinion they hold thinks society has gone wrong. You absolutely could not make it up!

As for the moderation on this site, why such posts are not removed? it just shows what a creepy corner of the internet this site has become. Any connection with DCFC is a mere accident.

[Romanis]

So an idiot on here who advocates violence on someone for an opinion they hold thinks society has gone wrong. You absolutely could not make it up!

As for the moderation on this site, why such posts are not removed? it just shows what a creepy corner of the internet this site has become. Any connection with DCFC is a mere accident.

I hope this pertains just to the poster not the thread itself.
It's a controversial topic, but what's wrong in talking difficult stuff? We are adults and should be able to discuss stuff without the need to act as a dick.

[sixtiesram]

I hope this pertains just to the poster not the thread itself.
It's a controversial topic, but what's wrong in talking difficult stuff? We are adults and should be able to discuss stuff without the need to act as a dick.

My comment was about the poster and his references to violence and definitely not your thread.

[ramAnag]

So an idiot on here who advocates violence on someone for an opinion they hold thinks society has gone wrong. You absolutely could not make it up!

As for the moderation on this site, why such posts are not removed? it just shows what a creepy corner of the internet this site has become. Any connection with DCFC is a mere accident.

Obviously I agree with your first paragraph, sixties, but I don’t think ‘it shows what a creepy corner of the internet this site has become’.
Rom posted a question, in his slightly old fashioned and controversial way, and only one person has reacted ‘creepily’.
The vast majority, including you and I, have reacted very positively. Nothing wrong with starting a debate but in every group there’ll be at least one idiot and few things are more stupid than threatening violence on an anonymous Internet forum...empty vessels and all that. He’s probably one of the hand waving, ‘come an’ ‘ave a go...’ 50 metre hardmen at away matches too.
I’m actually quite reassured by the response as a whole and I think the Brexit thread is another example where fierce disagreement, although admittedly it has achieved virtually nothing in twenty odd months, has been conducted here much more civilly than on other forums.

[ramAnag]

You defending this rama makes me think your a weirdo. Anyone who defends this needs a serious hammering as well imo.

Lol...another keyboard warrior threatening violence in the absence of reason. Grow up and get over your prejudice.
I honestly do understand that it may take some adjusting to, but all that really matters where bringing up children is concerned is that those responsible are able to provide an environment where the child is able to thrive and feel loved. If you think that only hetero***uals can provide that you are sadly mistaken and similarly, if you’d seen the evidence that I have of children who have been bullied and abused by their ‘straight’, ‘normal’ and hetero***ual fathers perhaps you’d change your mind