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Thread: Corbyn McDonnell Livingstone Labour Spy claims

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
    I understand your point Supersub, but the decision to stop using these girls was a business decision by the companies - nothing to do with the Government.
    It may not have had anything to do with the Government, however, the decision was only made because of pressure from where? They didn't make these decisions before the big hoo haa about the exploitation of women brought about by the undercover journalist at the big charity bash.
    I know several girls who are only too happy to be involved in F1 etc, in fact, some of them have been for years and now they have had the rug pulled from under their feet because of something not connected to F1 at all.

    The country is going crazy, it is getting to the point when, as an elder statesman you daren't open your mouth because someone, somewhere will find it offensive.
    You only have to read these message boards.

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    Thatcher's policy on people who need a bit of a leg-up or find themselves in the deep do-do: "They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbours."
    Hardly the sort of words that should be coming out of the mouth of the best Prime Minister this country has ever had?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Thatcher's policy on people who need a bit of a leg-up or find themselves in the deep do-do: "They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbours."
    Hardly the sort of words that should be coming out of the mouth of the best Prime Minister this country has ever had?
    Very interesting thought on what Brexit is all about. People looking after themselves first and sod the neighbours.
    She is just stating it exactly how it was and still is --no matter which political party you follow. Jeremy and his cronies are very good at looking after themselves and they are also expert at manipulation.
    Mrs Thatcher was not saying anything new, she was just stating things as they were then and still are now, in spite of having been out of office since 1990. A further 7 years of Tory Government was followed by 13 years of socialism which changed what? There was still no society, people just selfishly looked after themselves, apart from all those whose pension pots were robbed by Gordon Brown and company ---did they then cast their problems at society or did they just get on with it and look after themselves. They certainly didn't get any sympathy from the Government of the day who compounded the problems by selling off our gold reserves at a very cheap price.

    What we are talking about in real terms is the fact that since Mrs Thatcher finished we have not had anybody worthy of being called a leader and who had the balls to do what they thought needed doing.
    This country has been devoid of leadership for almost 30 years and we have been going down the pan for all of that time because those leading the various political parties pontificate about everything but do absolutely nothing positive to help put the country back on track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Thatcher's policy on people who need a bit of a leg-up or find themselves in the deep do-do: "They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbours."
    Hardly the sort of words that should be coming out of the mouth of the best Prime Minister this country has ever had?
    Sounds 100% correct, logical and sensible to me, and well done for quoting it in it's entirety, instead of taking a few words out of context as lefties usually do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    "They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbours."
    What a load of Claptrap

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    Right wing press say up to 15 Labour MPs including these three were paid for information by Czech spies in the 1980s and we’re good sources of information to the spy making the claims.

    It’s interesting the BBC is ignoring this news whilst Sky has run the denial. Mail and Express also on the case.
    To be fair it's not the 'right-wing' press saying Jeremy was in the pay of the Czechs, it's the Czechs themselves. The 'right-wing' press are just reporting on and investigating the story, which is surely what a free press is for, while the left-wing media are burying their heads in the sand and hoping the story will go away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    To be fair it's not the 'right-wing' press saying Jeremy was in the pay of the Czechs, it's the Czechs themselves. The 'right-wing' press are just reporting on and investigating the story, which is surely what a free press is for, while the left-wing media are burying their heads in the sand and hoping the story will go away.
    As was the BBC till 10 mins ago

    “Jeremy Corbyn should be "open and transparent" about his alleged contacts with a Communist spy during the 1980s, Theresa May has suggested.
    Asked about claims a Czech intelligence officer met and tried to recruit Mr Corbyn during the Cold War, she said MPs must "account" for past actions.”

    However they are pushing the line from the Czech director of the public archive that he was not on the right list to be a spy. But then they would try to protect their past allies wouldn’t they. Funny the original allegations get few words.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43111794
    Last edited by oldcolner; 19-02-2018 at 05:30 PM.

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    They only tell you what they want you to know and they will always word it so that you do not misunderstand what they are trying to get through to you!

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    Jeremy Corbyn has always railed against Mutually Assured Destruction because it really is a MAD concept.

    I work on the premise that debate, negotiation and deliberation is a whole lot better than hitting the NUKE red button. If and it's a big IF, Corbyn was having talks with the Eastern Bloc to prevent the escalation of the Cold War and prevent Armageddon then good on him I say!

    Trump and his cronies think otherwise. I would love to be a fly on the wall if Corbyn ever met Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    As was the BBC till 10 mins ago

    “Jeremy Corbyn should be "open and transparent" about his alleged contacts with a Communist spy during the 1980s, Theresa May has suggested.
    Asked about claims a Czech intelligence officer met and tried to recruit Mr Corbyn during the Cold War, she said MPs must "account" for past actions.”

    However they are pushing the line from the Czech director of the public archive that he was not on the right list to be a spy. But then they would try to protect their past allies wouldn’t they. Funny the original allegations get few words.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43111794
    I would love to know why our own spy network was on holiday whilst JC was undermining our nation's security?

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