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Thread: Our youth system has failed us

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    The Dev League does not look good with us bottom and them second. A lot of work required looks like to get back to where we were youth wise!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    We currently have, barring injury, two players who have came through our youth set-up as first choice. Robson and Fraser. Five of our first team squad are such players also: adding Ballantyne, Allardice, and M Smith.

    This is nowhere near failure IMHO.
    LOL - Conveniently overlooking the fact that apart from Fraser (when he can be arsed), the rest are phucking garbage. Being part of this particular first team squad means nothing. If we weren't utter toilet these boys would would be nowhere near the club never mind the first team!

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    How you come to that conclusion when most of them haven't played that many games is fairly mysterious. Hardly surprising though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    How you come to that conclusion when most of them haven't played that many games is fairly mysterious. Hardly surprising though.
    They've all played enough games for the development squad AND the first team for someone who watches both regularly to make a judgement.

    Perhaps you should go to more U20 games, or maybe it's easier to stick yer heid in the sand again and pretend everything is rosy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM1971 View Post
    According to the media the Admin girl settled out of court for a 'five' figure sum. That could be anything from £10,000 - £99,999. Most likely somewhere between 10-20 grand.
    Was it not that she was looking for a five figure sum? the payout agreed was not noted

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    Big difference a player playing a development match rather than in the first team though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    Big difference a player playing a development match rather than in the first team though.
    Correct, however good players stick out like a sore thumb at that level. The guys you mention don't. Our development squad are utterly honking and as Stoke says, the whole thing needs ripped up and started again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror View Post
    Big difference a player playing a development match rather than in the first team though.
    How can you equate ANY of the players you mentioned to the likes of Russell and Armstrong? Just because some of them get near the first team doesn't make them good Terry.

    We needed and may still need (god forbid next season) OUTSTANDING youth talent to break through and help fire us to the top division.

    We've been let down and it needs a clearout and rebuild from top to bottom.

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    Terry - Stuart Armstrong broke into the team under Houston!! That was centuries ago. Not sure about JR but was many years before Armstrong. Tell me this - when was the last time we produced a player from the youth ranks that went on to be a game changer in the first team? Isn't that the whole point of having a youth system in the first place??

    What we needed and what we still need is an Andy Gray a David Goodwillie or an Andy Robertson.

    What have we got? Nada

  10. #20
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    Have our best youths not been getting sold before getting first team?

    Last summer to Southampton and another one to Celtic not that long ago i seem to remember.

    What hope have we got of quality youth players coming through to help first team if the current owners sell at the first sign of cash?

    Also the fact that our youth set up was classed miles above the funs and now it isn’t wont help either. Instead of us getting the pick of the area we are now sharing that.

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