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    Rads kicks off

    Been on Talksport this morning talking to Jim White. Spoke about following the Wolves model of acquiring top players on a play now sign later scheme that the league leaders have been using successfully this season but wants clarification on the legalities of it. In other words putting the ball in the Leagues court, if they say it's legal and Wolves have done nothing wrong then he has contacts and friends that would make it possible to follow the model adopted by Wolves. Also unhappy with the attitude of players signed on long contracts not applying themselves to getting the team into the playoffs and generally questioning the motivation of players and in effect saying some might and will be out the door in the summer.
    Good to hear that he is aware of all the things the fans have been stating on sites like this for some time now. He's the owner and has every right to let the slackers know it's not good enough, if they can't get motivated by 30,000 crowds at ER and the best away support in the league then best they get out of here this summer and bring in the personnel that can do the job.

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    Sounds good

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    Sorry Mick, I agree that it's nice to see some involvement from the owner, but he is the architect of the current situation. After all, he is the owner, he appointed the DoF and other board representatives, he must have approved the appointment of Christiansen, and the influx of sub-standard players that both he (Christiansen) and Heckingbottom are saddled with, ,amongst the few quality players we are all aware of.

    To cry foul against Wolves is sour grapes, and is unlikely to get any reaction. Going on to Talksport and bleating about a group of players that HIS club have appointed and in many cases given long contracts to on the basis of next to f00k all performance is likely to get even less favourable reactions, as in;

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/l...t-own-players/

    There are things Radrizzani should be doing, and they don't include mouthing of about the players in general. Giving a b0ll0cking happens behind closed door, and is targeted, doing so in a scatter-gun approach on the radio is unlikely to generate a positive result (after all, what can the club do with the likes of Sacko, Anita, Wiedwald etc etc, sack them?
    Last edited by WTF11; 13-03-2018 at 12:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CLIVETHELEEDSFAN View Post
    Sounds good
    Nonesense

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    Sorry Mick, I agree that it's nice to see some involvement from the owner, but he is the architect of the current situation. After all, he is the owner, he appointed the DoF and other board representatives, he must have approved the appointment of Christiansen, and the influx of sub-standard players that both he (Christiansen) and Heckingbottom are saddled with, ,amongst the few quality players we are all aware of.

    To cry foul against Wolves is sour grapes, and is unlikely to get any reaction. Going on to Talksport and bleating about a group of players that HIS club have appointed and in many cases given long contracts to on the basis of next to f00k all performance is likely to get even less favourable reactions, as in;

    https://www.footballinsider247.com/l...t-own-players/

    There are things Radrizzani should be doing, and they don't include mouthing of about the players in general. Giving a b0ll0cking happens behind closed door, and is targeted, doing so in a scatter-gun approach on the radio is unlikely to generate a positive result (after all, what can the club do with the likes of Sacko, Anita, Wiedwald etc etc, sack them?
    It seems to me that he's damned if he says anything and likewise if he makes a statement, he knows that mistakes have been made and it's good that he recognises the fact, as for upsetting players, well that's tough it's not as if they could get any less motivated than they have been recently. With regards to the Wolves situation, I wonder how they ( the FL ) would have reacted if it had been us who employed the Wolves model and someone complained. I have a feeling they wouldn't leave a stone unturned until they could find something that would contravene the rules.

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    No, he isn't he just needs to choose what he says, and who he says it about, a little more carefully.

    If I was Jansson, Saiz, Forshaw, and a couple of others, I'd be feeling a tad "tarred with the same brush". On their own, the four or five players who are actually any good aren't going to compete against teams who have real quality, and they know it, so being berated in a public forum such as a radio show wasn't very smart on Radrizzanis part.

    As for recognising mistakes, where is there any reference in his utterances regarding the construction of the current squad, as opposed to just saying we're crap on the field? He was kind enough to acknowledge a couple of weeks ago that the squad was too big, and the wage bill had grown by 7m in a year. Its no secret as to why that is, so why, in his diatribe about players, was there no mention of mistakes having been made in player acquisition. Is Orta such a gentle wallflower that he isn't expected to face the same public criticism that the players he is responsible for signing have? He criticised Christiansen after he was sacked, but HE appointed the guy, and retained him for longer than he should have because (so we are led to believe) Orta persuaded him, so fess up please, and swallow some home-made humble pie, rather than flinging scatter-gun sh1t around.

    On the Wolves thing, of course we would have been treated differently, has been the case for years and will continue to be, so we just swallow it and get on, same for every other owner and Radrizzani SHOULD have know that before he took 50% ownership, never mind the whole farm! Nothing to be done there, particularly in the short term, so energy should be spent where it's going to have an effect, getting the Leeds 1st team to a point where it can perform on a par with those other giants of football, Bristol City and Sheffield United!
    Last edited by WTF11; 13-03-2018 at 01:15 PM.

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    he realised that by investing proper money in to the playing squad - the wolves way achieves results

    where as radrizaanis way, of not investing sufficient funds, and getting orta to recruit utter dross, from the back of beyond only causes utter embarassment , hence him throwing his toys out of his pram at the wolves hierarchy.

    the gap between the two sides was enormous and just emphasised , how far behind his counterparts he really is , and just what needs to be done to get there . unfortunately you cannot teach someone who will not listen and learn , and the same mistakes will be made until he sells up . the so called five year plan , will now be nothing like as long , further investment needs to be sought from somewhere else by the beginning of next season , or a new takeover will be very much on the cards in the not too distant future .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marley past ghosts View Post
    he realised that by investing proper money in to the playing squad - the wolves way achieves results

    where as radrizaanis way, of not investing sufficient funds, and getting orta to recruit utter dross, from the back of beyond only causes utter embarassment , hence him throwing his toys out of his pram at the wolves hierarchy.

    the gap between the two sides was enormous and just emphasised , how far behind his counterparts he really is , and just what needs to be done to get there . unfortunately you cannot teach someone who will not listen and learn , and the same mistakes will be made until he sells up . the so called five year plan , will now be nothing like as long , further investment needs to be sought from somewhere else by the beginning of next season , or a new takeover will be very much on the cards in the not too distant future .
    Were you born an arse or did you morph into one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacaman View Post
    Were you born an arse or did you morph into one?
    no fella , your knight in shining armour, signor radrizaani cant produce the goods on the pitch , its as simple as that .

    do you want to see premier league football again ? , before you MORPH in to an old man , like the rest of em on here . lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marley past ghosts View Post
    no fella , your knight in shining armour, signor radrizaani cant produce the goods on the pitch , its as simple as that .

    do you want to see premier league football again ? , before you MORPH in to an old man , like the rest of em on here . lol
    When he does, not only will we get promotion to the promised land but you'll no doubt disappear - Double Whammy. Bring it on ........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacaman View Post
    When he does, not only will we get promotion to the promised land but you'll no doubt disappear - Double Whammy. Bring it on ........
    lol . radrizaani is like the rest of the owners we have had in the last fourteen years pal . lol

    ALL TALK AND NO ACTION , SHORT ARMS AND DEEP POCKETS , lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marley past ghosts View Post
    lol . radrizaani is like the rest of the owners we have had in the last fourteen years pal . lol

    ALL TALK AND NO ACTION , SHORT ARMS AND DEEP POCKETS , lol
    Must be a closet Yawkie then..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marley past ghosts View Post
    no fella , your knight in shining armour, signor radrizaani cant produce the goods on the pitch , its as simple as that .

    do you want to see premier league football again ? , before you MORPH in to an old man , like the rest of em on here . lol
    Whatever happened with the old saying " respect your elders " . I certainly fit into the older age category and as well as drawing government wages I have been fortunate to see three championship sides at ER as well as the poor sides we have all had to put up with over recent history. I've seen the game change from the sixties when you didn't have to buy a programme to know who played for the opposition to today when you haven't an idea who half the opposing side are. There's nothing wrong with being nostalgic they were great times and great memories that I and many on here enjoyed and experienced them. I hope to see my beloved team return to the Premier League before I pop me clogs, but I realise that this is probrobly one of the toughest and most competitive leagues in world football, every game is fought for and no result is a given. Radz has stated he has a five year plan and we have people on here bleeting with less than a year gone, I feel sorry for some of you younger impatient fans, I hope for your sake that Radz does get it right and then you can direct your venom as to why we're not winning the Premier League/ Champions League/FA Cup/ League Cup etc roll on.

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    Heat hear mick64, well put.

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    He's obviously found the Cellino 'how to' guide to being a Chairman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mick64 View Post
    Whatever happened with the old saying " respect your elders " . I certainly fit into the older age category and as well as drawing government wages I have been fortunate to see three championship sides at ER as well as the poor sides we have all had to put up with over recent history. I've seen the game change from the sixties when you didn't have to buy a programme to know who played for the opposition to today when you haven't an idea who half the opposing side are. There's nothing wrong with being nostalgic they were great times and great memories that I and many on here enjoyed and experienced them. I hope to see my beloved team return to the Premier League before I pop me clogs, but I realise that this is probrobly one of the toughest and most competitive leagues in world football, every game is fought for and no result is a given. Radz has stated he has a five year plan and we have people on here bleeting with less than a year gone, I feel sorry for some of you younger impatient fans, I hope for your sake that Radz does get it right and then you can direct your venom as to why we're not winning the Premier League/ Champions League/FA Cup/ League Cup etc roll on.
    this guy will never get us back in the premier league its as plain as day already , your forgetting we have already had owners who have said exactly the same thing before, ,IT DOES NOT TAKE FIVE YEARS TO GET LEEDS BACK IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE , IF YOU HAVE THE FINANCES TO BACK IT UP, this guy does not have them, or is not prepared to do what is needed financially to do it.

    we are further away from promotion, than we were twelve months ago lol, due to his so called five year plan , this guy will not be here five years from now, that is an absolute certainty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentman View Post
    He's obviously found the Cellino 'how to' guide to being a Chairman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLIVETHELEEDSFAN View Post
    Sounds good
    I agree.

    Seems others do also if this poll is any indication:

    https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co....ters-1-9062503

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    Quote Originally Posted by CromerWhite View Post
    I agree.

    Seems others do also if this poll is any indication:

    https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co....ters-1-9062503
    Lies, damned lies and statistics, you can find support for whatever side of the argument you're on.

    There are links I've posted previously, and another here;

    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/wh...s-the-verdict/

    All of which would suggest that Radrizzani has overstepped the mark.

    Doesn't matter really, we'll see how the players perform on Friday at home, following the "pep talk" from the owner (compared to the half-decent performance against Reading away before he got on his hind legs), won't we?

    And before anyone gets all excited, of course I want a win, and for a clean sheet for BPF on the back of a good performance by the back four, etc etc, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the 1st team starters are less than motivated (guess who), we will see.
    Last edited by WTF11; 14-03-2018 at 11:39 AM.

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