The penalty kick law

[Elite_Pie]

I'm a bit of a traditionalist, so I'm usually against any changes to the laws of the game. The awarding of penalty kicks however has concerned me for many years. This isn't specifically about today's game (although I think it provides a perfect example of my point), as I realise it will work in our favour as often as it works against us. My bone of contention is the punishment fitting the crime. If there is a clear goalscoring opportunity denied by foul play then a penalty kick is the correct decision. An average percentage of a penalty kicks resulting in a goal is around 80%, but what were the chances today? An innocuous ball bouncing around the edge of the box, I'd say they had a 2-3% chance of a goal if the alleged offence hadn't happened. But that 2-3% chance turns into an 80% chance once the ref decides to blow his whistle. I propose a first and second degree offence in the box, much like the murder or manslaughter charge in statute law. Where the offence is clearly deliberate to deny a goalscoring opportunity, that is punished by a penalty kick from 12 yards. A more dubious offence like today should result in a second degree penalty kick which is taken from the edge of the box (18 yards) or the mid point of the arc around the box (22 yards), take your pick.

Memo to FIFA, I am available for other advice without the need for the customary brown envelopes.

[navypie]

Perhaps we could stop the game for 10/15 minutes whilst a committee meets to discuss the % . Without wanting to start an argument , what a load of b0ll0x .

Memo to FIFA........................

[Elite_Pie]

Perhaps we could stop the game for 10/15 minutes whilst a committee meets to discuss the % . Without wanting to start an argument , what a load of b0ll0x .

Memo to FIFA........................

You don't seem to understand (no surprises there). The decision would be made by the referee and would be instant. Maybe I should have explained that in detail for the hard of thinking, but I'd guess that 99% on here would have worked it out for themselves anyway.

[navypie]

You don't seem to understand (no surprises there). The decision would be made by the referee and would be instant. Maybe I should have explained that in detail for the hard of thinking, but I'd guess that 99% on here would have worked it out for themselves anyway.

There you go, having a dig and using % again. Back the post , very subjective me old mucker. If implemented ,perhaps we could have a dubious % panel?

[Elite_Pie]

There you go, having a dig and using % again. Back the post , very subjective me old mucker. If implemented ,perhaps we could have a dubious % panel?

So you weren't having a dig at me personally rather than the substance of the post in your reply? Read it again very slowly, repeat this three times, then see if you can come up with something relevant to the topic. I won't hold my breath.

[navypie]

So you weren't having a dig at me personally rather than the substance of the post in your reply? Read it again very slowly, repeat this three times, then see if you can come up with something relevant to the topic. I won't hold my breath.

I have read it carefully . I don't agree with your idea. I promise never to say it's a load of b0llox again if that makes you happier.

[DomdomPie]

I’ve often thought that being awarded a penalty kick when running away from goal (but still in the box) is a daft rule. If it’s the same for both sides though, I suppose it’s as fair as any other rule.

[Pieeyedandlegless]

I’ve often thought that being awarded a penalty kick when running away from goal (but still in the box) is a daft rule. If it’s the same for both sides though, I suppose it’s as fair as any other rule.

Actually, I always thought that unless the handling offence was a deliberate act to prevent a goal then it should be an indirect free kick from where the offence was committed, I stand to be corrected on this.

[tarquinbeech]

I'm a bit of a traditionalist, so I'm usually against any changes to the laws of the game. The awarding of penalty kicks however has concerned me for many years. This isn't specifically about today's game (although I think it provides a perfect example of my point), as I realise it will work in our favour as often as it works against us. My bone of contention is the punishment fitting the crime. If there is a clear goalscoring opportunity denied by foul play then a penalty kick is the correct decision. An average percentage of a penalty kicks resulting in a goal is around 80%, but what were the chances today? An innocuous ball bouncing around the edge of the box, I'd say they had a 2-3% chance of a goal if the alleged offence hadn't happened. But that 2-3% chance turns into an 80% chance once the ref decides to blow his whistle. I propose a first and second degree offence in the box, much like the murder or manslaughter charge in statute law. Where the offence is clearly deliberate to deny a goalscoring opportunity, that is punished by a penalty kick from 12 yards. A more dubious offence like today should result in a second degree penalty kick which is taken from the edge of the box (18 yards) or the mid point of the arc around the box (22 yards), take your pick.

Memo to FIFA, I am available for other advice without the need for the customary brown envelopes.

What I think is........ if you have a peno shout turned down, you get a free peno shout in the 2nd half....a bit like Paddy Power at Chelters.....you can play them one at a time, or save them up until you get 4 or 5...each peno shout is worth 10 yards closer to the goal.....so if you cash in all 5 at once, you can tap it over the line with your todger...not yours, obviously, E~lite......mine!

Is this the silly season?....if so, this is my suggestion.....females will flock to ML....trust me.

[slack_pie]

I get your point Elite, and I do agree - there's a massive difference between hacking someone down when through on goal and someone kicking the ball against your hand on the edge of the box. Yesterday highlighted this, as it seemed such an absurd way to throw away a win. One ball-to-hand incident on the edge of the box undermining all the good defensive work before hand, let alone the effect that two points dropped could have on our season. Doubt it would ever happen though, and I can see why. Generally I prefer to keep it simple and not mess with the rules, and I also quite like the controversy - it's much more interesting than VAR. But yeah, yesterday was really tough to take.