O/T New British passports

[Exiletyke]

It's a bit silly of you to suggest that I don't care about the loss of UK jobs. Of course I do; I live in the UK and have friends, family and the community in which I live in the UK.

Caring about UK jobs is one of the reasons why I would not vote for the current iteration of the Labour Party, the policies of which would see them destroyed in huge numbers.

In addition to being a bit silly of you to suggest that I don't care about UK jobs, isn't it also a tad hypocritical of you given that you have stated that your use of the words 'good eh' might have been an expression of approval for the award of the UK passport contract to a Franco Dutch company.

You don't really get the idea of proof. Your belief that I have seen a thread started by you in which you express an opinion about Analytica, does not prove that I have. If you want to start proving something, why not begin by proving the existence of the alleged thread by putting up a link to it?

Now who's being silly
You've seen the thread & I think we both know you have so quit lying
Back to your psychopathic self Can't escape it can you
Mind you don't fall off the piste

[animallittle3]

Good to see you embracing the free market.

The next step is for you to get to the point where you can acknowledge that returning a government that increases costs for UK businesses will cost UK jobs.

That's actually a very interesting statement because by design the free market itself lends towards job losses .

[Exiletyke]

That's actually a very interesting statement because by design the free market itself lends itself towards job losses .

But only in some jobs Animal
Can you believe this philanthropist Kerr?

[Exiletyke]

£120m cheaper to offer the contract to the french / dutch company .

Clearly the uk company went in way too high , that's a significant differential .

Do you know if the savings are per annum then you're right but usually in the tendering adjudicating process savings are calculated over the life of the contract I'd be assuming 5 years
But not to worry any job loss costs will be borne by the UK taxpayer in the form of unemployment & other benefits so in short someone else is paying

I have often wondered if German vehicles are cheaper than any one elses when tenders are invited for Police Fire Ambulance vehicles as you will not see many other than German vehicles used in Germany in this area
Same goes for France & Italy
Odd int it?

[Exiletyke]

No sirree they look after their own

[Exiletyke]

Sorry just noticed Animal's post said it was Del a Rue

What, do you seriously think that any savings will be passed on to the consumer
Who's going to pay for redundancies unemployment benefits etc
Oh yeah the taxpayer

[animallittle3]

Do you know if the savings are per annum then you're right but usually in the tendering adjudicating process savings are calculated over the life of the contract I'd be assuming 5 years
But not to worry any job loss costs will be borne by the UK taxpayer in the form of unemployment & other benefits so in short someone else is paying

I have often wondered if German vehicles are cheaper than any one elses when tenders are invited for Police Fire Ambulance vehicles as you will not see many other than German vehicles used in Germany in this area
Same goes for France & Italy
Odd int it?

UK businesses have a number of issues they need to address , productivity is very low , that needs to improve , massively .

Wage stagnation is also a factor , if money is tight then obviously consumers aren't going to be buying products .

Chicken and the egg situation , investment to kick start business or carry on cutting back ?

The electorate will have the opportunity to decide at the next GE exile .

[Exiletyke]

Do you know if the savings are per annum then you're right but usually in the tendering adjudicating process savings are calculated over the life of the contract I'd be assuming 5 years
But not to worry any job loss costs will be borne by the UK taxpayer in the form of unemployment & other benefits so in short someone else is paying

I have often wondered if German vehicles are cheaper than any one elses when tenders are invited for Police Fire Ambulance vehicles as you will not see many other than German vehicles used in Germany in this area
Same goes for France & Italy
Odd int it?

Now understand the contract will be for 11 years
Presumably to end in 2030

Good eh?

[frenchlion]

I don't know if it's Del A Rue based in the North East that have put the bid in ? They used to print cheque books etc for all Major Banks, and charged an absolute fortune for the priveledge, Printing of Cheque books will soon become a thing of the past, it maybe that if it is them ? They may want to make a killing out of printing passports ? GREEDY GREEDY FIRM , good luck to the firm that wins this contract and possibly keeping the cost of renewal or new passports cheaper , Carnt fault em

Evening Roma...before I retired I used to work for Gemalto...the company that won the passport tender. There will be two production possibilities, either they will be produced in their specialised ID production site in Finland or they will be subcontracted out to the French national printing company. Whatever solution that will be chosen, given the labour costs I can confirm that they will not be cheap to produce. Gemalto are not in business to lose money...believe me, far from it...so their tender was certainly fair. How they can be 100 million cheaper than De la Rue is unreal. I don’t know if DLR have previously been put to tender by the UK government as they were the only supplier since passports were first issued and they probably thought is was a forgone conclusion but seemingly they seriously plucked up! Today it is estimated that half of the world’s population....that’s a lot of people....use daily a Gemalto product...Bank cards,Sim cards,passports,drivers licence,pay tv,security badges etc etc.

[lk311]

I agree that it would be better to have the Passports printed in UK, but you do have to question how there was such a large variation in tender values.
Perhaps given the fact they have lost a few contracts recently might have something to do with it.