Jeremy....the end ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

All I know Balan is that around 5 million Palestinians are living in appalling conditions on the West Bank and the Gaza strip.

Simply because Jeremy Corbyn rails against the treatment of the Palestinians, particularly by the IDF, does not make him anti-Semitic.

That is my one and only point.

[sinkov]

British Jewry and their cronies hate Corbyn so much?

The mask is slipping, 'British Jewry and their cronies' eh, just who are the cronies you're referring to ? Not the Rothschilds by any chance surely ? Stereotyping and stigmatising the Jewish community in Britain now, be careful, one slip and you'll be in the sewer with Cob.

And just how many anti-semitic facebook groups does it have to be revealed that Cob belongs to, before you can admit he's swimming in a sewer of anti-semitism ? Five and counting at the moment, how many will it take ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

The Labour MP's who can't abide Corbyn can be numbered among the "British Jewry cronies", the anti-Semitic bandwagon just keeps on rolling along and unfortunately Corbyn keeps on falling under the bus.

Enough muck has been chucked and unfortunately for JC some of it has stuck. How many anti-Semitic Facebook groups are there because they are about as credible as Trump's Twitter feeds?

[blueheeler1]

I have been seriously involved with the Labour Party for almost 50 years.

I have attended hundreds of conferences and meetings and not once have I ever come across blatant anti-Semitism within the PLP or any CLP.

The Labour Party is a very broad church and this Corbyn is anti-Semitic hogwash is engineered to give the loony right a stick to beat him with.

Incidentally, there are about 1.8 million Arabs and Christians living in the State of Israel out of a population of around 8.7 million
people.

Sinkov just chucked this nonsense in for amusement.

Quite frankly blueheeler, I am appalled that a man of your obvious intelligence believes that people within the Labour Party are anti-Semitic. We are not.

BT. Thank you for your comment on my intelligence.

I think I'm a bit average, really.

But this is a rope that will ring my bell.

No. I don't see the rank and file of Labour as overtly anti-Semitic; membership is a broad cross section of the community.

I was in a union and a Labour supporter myself for many years.

The Palestinians.

How many of the people going for the throats of Israel have ever meet a Palestinian?

If so, what type of Palestinian were they?

Under the Governance of Hamas or Fatah?

In Israel or outside of Israel?

Do these same "poor Palestinians" people give a damn about Kurdish Syria?

What about Muslim genocide in Myanmar's Rohingya minority? How about Boko Haram's rape and murder of young girls?

Isn't that a tad worse than "appalling conditions" of the Palestinian?

Or have I got that wrong?

And why does the loony left; the Holocaust deniers and the susceptible left wing students' harp on about Palestinians EXCLUSIVELY?

Could it just be because its another opportunity to pay out on Jews?

Of course it is.

Look very carefully at what you support and the reasons you support it and then see if your concern might be better directed in other ways.

[sinkov]

Here we go again, Momentum director and member of Labour's NEC Christine Shawcross has stood down from her position as Chair of Labour's Disputes Panel, after she demanded that an activist, who been suspended for posting links to a Facebook article claiming the Holocaust was a hoax, be re-instated. That such an eminent and experienced Labour Party member should be actively engaged in trying to get an anti-semite, Holocaust denier re-instated into the party tells you all you need to know about Labour and it's leadership's attitude to anti-semitism.

Not a pretty sight is it ?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I find it incredibly difficult to accept that any person with an intellect beyond the stage of a day old tadpole can deny the Holocaust.

To deny the Holocaust goes way beyond racism and anti-Semitism, it insults the deaths of 6,000,000 victims of industrial scale genocide.

I my capacity as Political Education Officer of the Bolton North East Constituency Labour Party and active member of Momentum I have recently forwarded a motion that expulsion from the Labour Party for Holocaust deniers should not be mandatory.

Instead I have proposed in my motion that suspension should be obligatory and the Holocaust denier will only be re-instated to the Labour Party following a good old socialist style re-education process.

Trips to the Imperial War Museum and a look inside the Holocaust Exhibition followed by a mandatory trip at their own expense to visit the Documentation Centre Nazi Party Rally Grounds.

If that doesn't swing it, perhaps a forced train journey to Auschwitz from Paris in a cattle truck with a collection of like minded Holocaust deniers?

There is no excuse for anti-Semitism, there is absolutely no credible alternative but to accept the horrors the Jews of Europe suffered at the hands of the Nazis.

The greatest sadness in my lifetime is that we refuse to learn from the lessons of history.

Don't single out Corbyn because he fails to fully grasp the horrors of anti-Semitism but look at all of our global leaders who have stood by and watched genocide in locations such as Rwanda, Bosnia, Syria and now Myanmar.

We never learn do we?

[Balanbam00]

Not only a train Journey to Auschwitz Yad Vashem in Jerusalem

The childrens memorial https://youtu.be/BsJqKdN9B3A

https://youtu.be/6X6ku8KNsOw

[Balanbam00]

Sometimes when we think of the palestinians we usually think of Hamas and Fatah. But behind these groups are many more:
Palestinian Islamic Jihad,
Sometimes known as Jihad, it's the 2nd biggest group after Hamas in Gaza. Founded in 1979 as a break-away from the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad resembles Hamas in many ways. It’s a Palestinian national movement, it receives funding from Iran and has a small social service wing that includes schools, hospitals and family mediation services.
Islamic Jihad’s militia, the Al-Quds Brigade, at 8,000 fighters, compared to tens of thousands of Hamas fighters, compared to tens of thousands of Hamas fighters.
Popular Resistance Committees –
The Popular Resistance Committees, or PRC, is a break-away from the Palestinian Fatah Party, which governs the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. The PRC was founded in 2000 and opposes Fatah’s peace process with Israel. It was the third-strongest militia in Gaza and that it receives much of its funding from the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, which is also backed by Iran.

Jihadi groups -
Active in Gaza and allied with, or supportive of, the Islamic State and Al-Qaeda agenda of reestablishing an international Islamic caliphate. Among them, the Army of Islam.
Another group, Tawhid wal’Jihad, has shot a number of rockets at Israel. Jund Ansar Allah, - Attempted to attack Israel on horseback in 2009 and declared Gaza an Islamic emirate later that year, leading to a gunfight with Hamas forces.

Many of Hamas’s fellow jihadi organizations in Gaza don’t have the same interests. For most, their sole goal is to fight — not just against Israel, but to spread Islamist rule across the whole world.

“If Hamas were destroyed and gone, we would probably end up with something much worse,

[The Bedlington Terrier]

One of the biggest difficulties I experience is how we somehow manage to conflate the Holocaust with the Palestinian problem.

Let's consign the Holocaust to history and ensure that such an event can never, ever be repeated and work to find a credible long term solution which will bring an end to conflict in the Middle East.

Am I hoping for too much?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Not only a train Journey to Auschwitz Yad Vashem in Jerusalem

The childrens memorial https://youtu.be/BsJqKdN9B3A

https://youtu.be/6X6ku8KNsOw

Yad Vashem is on my bucket list Balan. Planning towards being there in September 2019.