Jeremy....the end ?

[sinkov]

You'd have to think so, surely this country is not going to vote in a confirmed jew-baiter as Prime Minister. We're not quite Nazi Germany just yet.

[oldcolner]

His hearts with Palestine ... and Russia.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

We had a Prime Minister who stood and watched six million Jews go to the gas chamber. I'm not worrying too much about JC just yet.

The UK Jewish Council confuse Corbyn's pro-Palestinian stance as anti-Semitism and the right wing rags play it to the max.

[blueheeler1]

We had a Prime Minister who stood and watched six million Jews go to the gas chamber. I'm not worrying too much about JC just yet.

The UK Jewish Council confuse Corbyn's pro-Palestinian stance as anti-Semitism and the right wing rags play it to the max.

An over-simplification of the facts BT.

The loony left have long been anti-Israel and do not discriminate between religion and statehood.

The fact there there are millions of non-Jews as well as Jews in Israel as Isreali citizens but don't let that stop their hatred.

In fact the loony left have no demarcation line; if you are Jewish you are hated.

Labour is fundamentally anti-Semitic and JC preferred to bury his head but more interestingly made anti-Semitic comments himself in 2012.

Jews are an easy target; why change that behavior? It worked for Hitler and continues to work for Labour.

After all, most people don't like Jews so its a shoe-in.

Why not continue the Myth that Jews drink the blood of young Christian babies at Passover?

It gets them what they want--votes.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I have been seriously involved with the Labour Party for almost 50 years.

I have attended hundreds of conferences and meetings and not once have I ever come across blatant anti-Semitism within the PLP or any CLP.

The Labour Party is a very broad church and this Corbyn is anti-Semitic hogwash is engineered to give the loony right a stick to beat him with.

Incidentally, there are about 1.8 million Arabs and Christians living in the State of Israel out of a population of around 8.7 million
people.

Sinkov just chucked this nonsense in for amusement.

Quite frankly blueheeler, I am appalled that a man of your obvious intelligence believes that people within the Labour Party are anti-Semitic. We are not.

[sinkov]

I have been seriously involved with the Labour Party for almost 50 years.

I have attended hundreds of conferences and meetings and not once have I ever come across blatant anti-Semitism within the PLP or any CLP.

The Labour Party is a very broad church and this Corbyn is anti-Semitic hogwash is engineered to give the loony right a stick to beat him with.

Incidentally, there are about 1.8 million Arabs and Christians living in the State of Israel out of a population of around 8.7 million
people.

Sinkov just chucked this nonsense in for amusement.

Quite frankly blueheeler, I am appalled that a man of your obvious intelligence believes that people within the Labour Party are anti-Semitic. We are not.

The thousands of members of the Jewish community who were protesting against anti-semitism in the Labour Party are clearly not amused, the Jewish Labour MPs who were protesting with them were not amused either. The Jewish community in this country generally get on with their lives quietly, they don't bomb people, they're not forever whingeing about their rights, equality or racism, when thousands of them feel the need to publicly protest against anti-semitism in the Labour Party, and in particular it's leader, they should be listened to and taken seriously, not fatuously treated as the Daily Mail's useful idiots.

Anti-semitism in the Labour Party has existed and flourished for years under the guise of anti-zionism and no more than mere opposition to Israeli government policies, now the Jewish community has had enough, it's out in the open. The interesting question is what will Labour do now, will they continue to ignore the problem, or deal with it. Tricky when their leader is up to his neck in anti-semitism himself.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

There were more hidden agendas going on in the Parliament Square protest than an educated person could count.

What is out in the open? I can never recall seeing any Brownshirts at any Labour Party meeting I have ever attended.

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I have no idea how any historical statement or perceived pernicious refusal to be on the front line to defend Jewish interests can possibly condemn a person to be anti-Semitic.

Jeremy Corbyn abhors racism and he is not too keen on oppression either. Perhaps his undoubted and continuing support of the Palestinians who are being subjected to unimaginable inhuman and degrading treatment by the land grabbing Israelis is the reason British Jewry and their cronies hate Corbyn so much?

[oldcolner]

I believe what you say BT about the Party and much of this is focussed on Jeremy who flip flops on the subject as his heart is with the oppressed Palestinians .. and Russia. There are party members like Ken Livingstone who are in need of discipline on their anti Semitic views and while they aren’t disciplined others will beleive they can use the party for their anti Semitic purposes using it as a front, rather like the Marxists are doing too.
Jeremy is too nice or weak to bring them into line, just as he has many MPs who aren’t really for him and he won’t sort out for other reasons. Momentum is trying to do that for him by deselecting them and others are running all women lists despite relative ability of male candidates. How long did it take Jeremy to believe the Russians were behind Salisbury, I’m not sure he does really and his friends in Russia can play on that too.
Jeremy is not a leader but a front man and several groups pull his strings. If Labour ever got to power which faction would provided the lead. That’s what worries me about the man and the party. Who will fill his boots is the big question?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Let's be brutally honest OC. The right wing press, middle England and the majority of the well heeled over fifties in the UK will never, ever allow a left wing socialist party to govern this country.

The inevitable sea change will come from the disadvantaged and disenfranchised youth of today who are from what I can witness galvanising an agenda which will result in a more equitable society.

Sadly it will not happen in my lifetime but I live in hope.

[Balanbam00]

B T :
I can not prove anything about what you write . " degrading treatment by the land grabbing Israelis "

I can say ...... On July 24, 1922, the fifty-one members of the League of Nations, which was later succeeded by the United Nations, unanimously adopted the British Mandate for Palestine. This decision was based on international recognition that the Jewish people were indigenous to the land of Israel. It thus enshrined into international law the legal right for Jewish people to settle anywhere in western Palestine, between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea.

Professor Eliav Shochetman, an expert in international law at Hebrew University, explains: “The right of the people of Israel to the Land of Israel was recognized by the League of Nations in 1921.

When the League of Nations ended and the United Nations was established, the UN Charter contained “ a special clause, no. 80, in which it is said that all of the rights that were recognized in international law by the League of Nations still exist and are still binding . . . there is no document in international law that grants rights of sovereignty to anybody other than to the Jewish People. This is the legal position,” according to Shochetman.

After the UN Partition Plan of 1947, the Jews declared statehood, were recognized by the United Nations, and were admitted as full voting members to the international body. Israel’s founding was legal and accepted by the international community as such. However, the new Jewish State was immediately attacked by the surrounding Arab nations.

But always keep in mind. In the aftermath of the Arab defeat to Israel in the Six-Day War and is famous for its Khartoum Resolution( Aug 29th-Sept 1st,1967 ) known as "The Three No's"; No peace with Israel, No recognition of Israel, No negotiations with Israel.