Jeremy....the end ?

[Balanbam00]

59-60: I look and see you address Sinkov with:

'' if England systematically had land claimed by the French, and the world ignored our situation I might even consider forming my own group to oppose the situation.''

Exactly ,because you know and history tells you the south coast has been ,has always been part of England!

When you hear talk of the West Bank, remember: This is Israel's heartland - Judea and Samaria.

[Balanbam00]

59-60: You say....

'' but Israel generally has never accepted Palestines right to exist. This has been their default position for a long time.
It certainly predates Hamas (1987) and Hezbollah (1985).''

The 1967 Arab League summit was held on August 29 in Khartoum as the fourth Arab League Summit. The summit came in the aftermath of the Arab defeat to Israel in the Six-Day War and is famous for its Khartoum Resolution known as "The Three No's"; No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel !!!!

The summit also resolved that the "oil-rich Arab states" give financial aid to the states who lost the war and to "help them rebuild their military forces."

The final communique of the meeting "underscored the Palestinians' right to regain the whole of Palestine—that is, to destroy the State of Israel." The outcome of this summit influenced Israeli foreign policy for decades.[

[The Bedlington Terrier]

It's a political cesspit and nobody seems to want to use the shovel.

[oldcolner]

Trouble at mill

Labour MPs today rounded on Jeremy Corbyn for failing to tackle the anti-Semitism voiced by his supporters - and told him to 'boot out' Ken Livingtsone from the party.

Labour MPs queued up to condemn the leadership for failing to do enough to crackdown on the abuse and said 'we must do better'. Labour ex minister Ian Austin said it is a 'disgrace' the former London Mayor has not been expelled for saying Hitler supported Zionism. Labour MP Luciana Berger, who is Jewish, told how she has been branded a Nazi and Israeli operative after she spoke out against anti-Semitism. While Ruth Smeeth, another Jewish Labour MP, told how she has received and endless torrent of threats for daring to speak out against the abuse. Fellow MPs were so moved by her speech that they defied parliamentary rules to stand up and applaud her words for some time before the Speaker intervened to ask them to sit down.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

What do Labour MP Luciana Berger, who is Jewish and Ruth Smeeth, another Jewish Labour MP both have in common?

[outwoodclaret]

If this is indeed to be the end of Jeremy Corbyn you can be in doubt that I will require incontrovertible proof of the fact.

[oldcolner]

What do Labour MP Luciana Berger, who is Jewish and Ruth Smeeth, another Jewish Labour MP both have in common?

1 The support of most Labour MPs?


2They got MPs to break Commons rules by applauding their speeches?

3 Both have been trollled viciously and threateningly by JC supporters and read them out to the Chamber. Two men also spoke.

Miss Smeeth said she had received thousands of abusive messages on social media, many of them from people claiming to be supporters of the Labour leader. JC4PM
One read: 'The first job for Jeremy Corbyn tomorrow: expel the Zionist b**** Ruth Smeeth from the party.' Another said: 'Hang yourself you vile treacherous Zionist Tory filth, you're a cancer of humanity.'

Jeremy such a supposedly benign man has some vile supporters.

4 They will be deselected by Momentum in due course?

[The Bedlington Terrier]

JC to sort out this anti-Semitism bollox once and for all:

At 5pm this afternoon, Jeremy Corbyn and new general secretary Jennie Formby will meet with representatives from the Board of Deputies and the Jewish Leadership Council to discuss perceived anti-Semitism in the Labour Party.

There has been some confusion over which meetings are being held and what shape they will take. Labour List understands that those taking place today were arranged first, but the leader’s office then organised a roundtable discussion and invited dozens of groups from BoD, JLC, individual synagogues and student societies to Jewish Voice for Labour, Jewdas and individuals including David Baddiel and Gary Spedding. The ‘mainstream’ Jewish groups saw it as an attempt to “divide and rule” and announced they wouldn’t attend the roundtable; the majority of those invited followed their lead. It has been indefinitely postponed.

Corbyn will push on and hold a series of smaller meetings, with a particular focus on the one at 5pm today. In a letter sent to the leader last month, BoD and JLC set the agenda. There are six key areas of discussion, each with demands attached:
Leadership. This is key – the groups see Corbyn as having an enormous mandate and a huge number of personal admirers in the party, such that only he has the authority to affect real change.

Disciplinary cases. The trickiest request: an independent ombudsman that would report to the party, BoD and JLC. Formby will likely say she’s already formed a team of lawyers to expedite alleged anti-Semitism cases, but that may not be enough for the Jewish groups.
Relations with suspended members. Basically they don’t want to see Chris Williamson share a platform with Jackie Walker again.
Education. They hope promoting the IHRA definition of anti-Semitism (hotly disputed by many on the Left, though endorsed by the Labour leader) at a local party level will improve branch and CLP meetings.
Engagement. Prioritising the community’s “main representative” rather than “fringe” groups.
Process. The solutions must be long-term.
BoD and JLC have been impressed with the tone and content of the Labour leader’s letters – less so with his attendance of the Jewdas seder, the Jewish News interview and the roundtable idea. They are still wondering aloud whether he “gets it”.

We know that not all Jewish Labour members, nor all Jewish people in Britain, support the Board of Deputies and the Jewish Leadership Council or agree with the list of requests outlined above. But the meeting is undeniably crucial.

With plenty of time to prepare responses to each agenda item and demand, Jeremy and Jennie should make progress today and start to heal Labour’s relationship with the Jewish community.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

His hearts with Palestine ... and Russia.

The basic premise that the leader of the British Labour Party is anti-Semitic is fatally flawed. A Semite is described as a member of any of the various ancient and modern peoples originating in south-western Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.
Jeremy Corbyn incontrovertibly supports the Palestinians who are Semites. Therefore, how can Corbyn be deemed to be anti-Semitic? To maintain their broadside attack on Jeremy Corbyn, the brotherhood of British Jews will just have to change tack and simply say in public, Corbyn does not like Jews.
Far better for the British Jews to use the anti-Semitic tag, a label the Tories and their right-wing media paymasters can use as a stick to beat Corbyn with every time Theresa May’s ratings flounder.
And don’t play the “race” card here because Jews are not a “race” but members of the people and cultural community whose traditional religion is Judaism and who trace their origins to the ancient Hebrew people of Israel.
Jews are descendants of Jacob and historically would be members of the tribe of Judah; a contemporary Jew obviously identifies themselves with the religion of Judaism.
Jeremy Corbyn has vehemently and constantly attacked the State of Israel for their treatment of Palestinians, but not Jews per se.
I have never had the privilege to sit down and discuss the present-day politics of Israel with Jeremy Corbyn. I would however bet a pretty penny he is aware that modern-day Jews originate from a nation existing in Palestine from the sixth century B.C to the first century A.D?
It is impossible to deny Jeremy Corbyn has continually criticized the State of Israel for their treatment of Palestinians, but just how that makes him anti-Semitic and anything other than a man of humanity and compassion, I fail to understand.

[oldcolner]

BT yesterday
With plenty of time to prepare responses to each agenda item and demand, Jeremy and Jennie should make progress today and start to heal Labour’s relationship with the Jewish community

Looks like they failed to convince BT. He needs new advisers. Alistair Campbell is available!
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43887223