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    Quote Originally Posted by qosdreamer View Post
    I think the question the board have to ask is have we improved in the 18 months Gary Naysmith has been in charge.Can we trust him to take the team for another season?My answer.Please no.
    Watch the space.....Should be interesting over the close season....

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    I'm sure they will be ruthless unless they're no longer at the helm. The whole JT scenario is ridiculous also.

    The JT scenario was brought on by the man himself, Queens had no other option

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloreburn View Post
    The JT scenario was brought on by the man himself, Queens had no other option
    What was he actually up to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qosdreamer View Post
    I think the question the board have to ask is have we improved in the 18 months Gary Naysmith has been in charge.Can we trust him to take the team for another season?My answer.Please no.
    Very telling and honest as ever interview with Naysmith where he clearly accepts responsibility for the teams failings with the crowds negative response at half time actually saying he would have reacted the same way. So what does he do now rather that what he has done previously? Based upon recent games and the players performance on the pitch-nothing! The BoD clearly need to have a serious discussion with the manager before the season ends and players are either let go with others recruited. Something has to fundamentally change and soon. He is clearly drinking in the last chance saloon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikefaethesouth View Post
    Very telling and honest as ever interview with Naysmith where he clearly accepts responsibility for the teams failings with the crowds negative response at half time actually saying he would have reacted the same way. So what does he do now rather that what he has done previously? Based upon recent games and the players performance on the pitch-nothing! The BoD clearly need to have a serious discussion with the manager before the season ends and players are either let go with others recruited. Something has to fundamentally change and soon. He is clearly drinking in the last chance saloon.
    I know from your posts that you are not someone to overreact so I found your comments on Naysmith very telling. Queens really can't afford to pay off GN and DA and then get another boss and assistant in. To be honest I'm not certain that anyone else could do better if you compare the resources other teams in our league have . Naysmith needs to make a difference here to help him move on to a bigger club ( and the two of them wouldn't think twice if said bigger club came in) I put this point to Anderson and so know its true . So, I reckon we are stuck with each other in the meantime , life a loveless marriage with too much to lose. Maybe the ideal situation would be for another club to approach them both in the summer so we don't pay compo. What is certain is that interest in our dear club is fading slowly but surely and when something isn't working then something needs to change. If our appalling home form was better then possibly we would be looking forward with more hope.
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    http://www.soccerstats.com/team.asp?...queen-of-south

    Second bottom of the form table. 8 points from the last 8 games, so that's like 8 draws.

    Joint third best offensively with 50 goals scored with Dunfermline

    Second worst defensively with 52 goals conceded.

    Third worst home form ahead of Dumbarton and Brechin City

    Fourth best away form behind Livingston, Greenock Morton and St Mirren

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    I still reckon Queens will finish Seventh, although disappointing in the fact the club had been in the Top Six all season.

    Inverness should pass Queens now and Falkirk have still to play St Mirren twice (home and away) and play Dumbarton, Inverness and Dundee United away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRSLEFTPEG View Post
    I know from your posts that you are not someone to overreact so I found your comments on Naysmith very telling. Queens really can't afford to pay off GN and DA and then get another boss and assistant in. To be honest I'm not certain that anyone else could do better if you compare the resources other teams in our league have . Naysmith needs to make a difference here to help him move on to a bigger club ( and the two of them wouldn't think twice if said bigger club came in) I put this point to Anderson and so know its true . So, I reckon we are stuck with each other in the meantime , life a loveless marriage with too much to lose. Maybe the ideal situation would be for another club to approach them both in the summer so we don't pay compo. What is certain is that interest in our dear club is fading slowly but surely and when something isn't working then something needs to change. If our appalling home form was better then possibly we would be looking forward with more hope.
    JR at the recent "meet the management" event it was my question that asked them to appraise their performance on the whole since taking over in the beginning of December 2016 and by the reaction of both Naysmith and Anderson it was clear that they thought that they could do better. Ultimately it will be a Board decision and the diminishing crowds cannot be allowed to continue if we are to retain full time football at Queens. Therefore if there is not an improvement in the product we see every other week at Palmerston then they will have no option but to act in an attempt to turn around the attendance numbers and I envisage that the management will have been made aware of this otherwise the board are not doing their job. I would give them the first couple of months of the new season to turn around the fortunes or changes will then be necessary at whatever cost to the club that would entail.

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    Fair enough Spike. I think we all know the players worth keeping a hold of some hopefully we can make ' canny' signings to complement them.

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    I mentioned in an earlier post that changing the manager is not always the answer, but changing the way the manager manages might be a better option. After Saturday's completely inept first half performance, it is essential that Mr. Naysmith evaluates his managing style, accepts criticism and advice from all quarters and plans a strategy for next season which completely changes the way he sets out his stall.

    It is easy to be critical, but for a start why was there no emotion shown from our management team while standing on the touchline? The players and managers were so chilled out they looked as though they had been smoking cannabis before the game! Furthermore, their attitude was rubbing off on the home support, who quite frankly looked comatose, while the drummer was in a trance, completely unable to raise his drumstick.

    In other threads we question why crowds are down, - is it any wonder? In the entertainment industry it is imperative to entertain, and as such Queen of the South FC are in breach of that fundamental requirement. If you had gone to the circus or the theatre and that same lacklustre approach had been adopted, - you would have been perfectly entitled to a refund.

    I spoke to someone at half time, - who had travelled all the way from Plymouth, (yes Plymouth) to watch Queen of the South, (just because he loves the name) and I had to apologise on behalf of the club for the lack of effort shown by everyone in blue.

    So I'm not asking for the BOD to change the manager, or for the manager to resign, - but my God, I would expect at the very least the players to give 100% on the pitch for 90 minutes (not 75 or 80 as Naysmith feels they should be aiming for in his interview on Radio Scotland this morning) - so that the punters who pay their hard earned cash at the turnstiles feel as though they've got value for money.

    Highly talented individuals strutting across a pitch, looking as though they are going through the motions will not entice anyone to Palmerston, and why on average 1000 to 1200 bother every other week, is beyond my comprehension.

    There is no need for pretence: Saturday was a debacle and most of the home performances this season have been pretty poor to say the least over the entire 90 minutes, with the team performing at above average for about 45 minutes each game and decidedly awful for the rest of the time.

    It's time to radically change that Mr. Naysmith, - and you as the manager must make that your number one priority, because after all that is what you are paid handsomely to do.

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    Naysmith, if nothing else, is extremely honest when it comes to his post match interviews and has said previously that he is a relative novice to management making errors but is still learning the trade. Well now is the time to show us all that he has actually learnt from his previous mistakes and is prepared to change the style of play especially at home. He certainly talks a good game but now is the time for action and adopt a more attacking formation from the start of each and every home game regardless of the league opposition rather than being forced into these changes when it is too late and the game is beyond us.

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    How many players has he brought in since Christmas? It must be pushing on for half a team and yet we're still no better off so using a lack of budget isn't really a excuse.

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    The only time I seen Naysmith shouting was after losing the first goal after the throw in.

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    Not sure Queens should make any decision until the league campaign is finished but they canít ignore falling crowds

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunez View Post
    Not sure Queens should make any decision until the league campaign is finished but they can’t ignore falling crowds


    we need it sorted now as by end of the season the way things are going mr naysmith and his naive tactics are going to cost queens 100s of thousands in league prize monies ,alot more cost than just sacking him now .

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    You mention that Naysmith is extremely you honest I'm not sure if that is not just "Lip Service"
    How many times dies he say Dougie and I have looked at ourselves to see if it's something they have done wrong , followed by a reason why it isnt there fault ,
    The last interview showed that as he quickly followed up with " but no it was individual mistakes"
    Has he ever admitted that his permanent signings have underperformed , that he is not tactically aware, that he can't get the best out of the players at the club.
    Of course he's going to say he feels they could do better ,because if he doesn't it simply means it's as good as he can give ,which is not good enough.
    He's abmitious and from what I've heard ruthless, I'm night sure that anyone has left thd club have left in good terms with him ie Hammil, Anderson Higgins,Dowie, Robinson,Hilson.
    I doubt any have been placed with a anyone better.
    How many players that he inherited have improved since he came in ?
    He clears out experienced players and plays the younger ones and mentions that we are are young side, you can't really hide behind that if you've created the situation.
    The only players that have played well are the loanees from higher level clubs and Dobbie.
    Imo he's very lacking in all areas and doesnt appear to be an inspiring person to be around.
    I can't see things changing unless he manages to get a good bunch of loanees for next season which to me isn't the right approach

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    Quote Originally Posted by newby View Post
    You mention that Naysmith is extremely you honest I'm not sure if that is not just "Lip Service"
    How many times dies he say Dougie and I have looked at ourselves to see if it's something they have done wrong , followed by a reason why it isnt there fault ,
    The last interview showed that as he quickly followed up with " but no it was individual mistakes"
    Has he ever admitted that his permanent signings have underperformed , that he is not tactically aware, that he can't get the best out of the players at the club.
    Of course he's going to say he feels they could do better ,because if he doesn't it simply means it's as good as he can give ,which is not good enough.
    He's abmitious and from what I've heard ruthless, I'm night sure that anyone has left thd club have left in good terms with him ie Hammil, Anderson Higgins,Dowie, Robinson,Hilson.
    I doubt any have been placed with a anyone better.
    How many players that he inherited have improved since he came in ?
    He clears out experienced players and plays the younger ones and mentions that we are are young side, you can't really hide behind that if you've created the situation.
    The only players that have played well are the loanees from higher level clubs and Dobbie.
    Imo he's very lacking in all areas and doesnt appear to be an inspiring person to be around.
    I can't see things changing unless he manages to get a good bunch of loanees for next season which to me isn't the right approach
    Canít really argue with that Newby. You make some excellent points especially the one about players not leaving on good terms

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    Quote Originally Posted by newby View Post
    You mention that Naysmith is extremely you honest I'm not sure if that is not just "Lip Service"
    How many times dies he say Dougie and I have looked at ourselves to see if it's something they have done wrong , followed by a reason why it isnt there fault ,
    The last interview showed that as he quickly followed up with " but no it was individual mistakes"
    Has he ever admitted that his permanent signings have underperformed , that he is not tactically aware, that he can't get the best out of the players at the club.
    Of course he's going to say he feels they could do better ,because if he doesn't it simply means it's as good as he can give ,which is not good enough.
    He's abmitious and from what I've heard ruthless, I'm night sure that anyone has left thd club have left in good terms with him ie Hammil, Anderson Higgins,Dowie, Robinson,Hilson.
    I doubt any have been placed with a anyone better.
    How many players that he inherited have improved since he came in ?
    He clears out experienced players and plays the younger ones and mentions that we are are young side, you can't really hide behind that if you've created the situation.
    The only players that have played well are the loanees from higher level clubs and Dobbie.
    Imo he's very lacking in all areas and doesnt appear to be an inspiring person to be around.
    I can't see things changing unless he manages to get a good bunch of loanees for next season which to me isn't the right approach

    Hammil was just about passed it.
    Anderson received nothing but pelters from the fans.
    Most were wanting shot of Dowie and Higgins (we're no better off without them imo)
    Robinson was always a lose firework AND again fans were getting fed up of his show boating and inability to kick a ball between the park.
    Hilson was rubbish !!

    Kerr and Baird left on bad terms as well and they weren't under Naysmith.

    I wouldn't say we're a particulary young team. We have a decent balance. In fact he's destroyed the youth set up. No young players breaking through at all now! He's got shot of most of the hopefulls.

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