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Thread: Patrick Kluivert

  1. #11
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    Thought this was about strengthening the players' squad for next season, Anelka-esque...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwedishBaggie View Post
    Thought this was about strengthening the players' squad for next season, Anelka-esque...
    Nice one SB...

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    Jesus Christ. What am I reading???

    You have to ask yourself, why is he being linked? It ain't because of his managerial ability, its because he's a 'name'.

    Also ask yourself, will Kluivert care that much if he got the job and failed? And what does Kluivert know about the Championship? Because from what I know, he has never been involved in it, or English football at all apart from a few months at Newcastle 20 years ago.

    If we're going to go for a 'name' we might as well go for the English route as other have mentioned, a Lampard or Gerrard. At least they know a bit about the Prem / have good contacts.

    It won't be easy to choose our next manager, but I'd rather go for a manager who has earned a shot by doing well in the lower leagues.

    Off the top of my head, I'd rather one of these:

    Nathan Jones at Luton
    Paul Hurst at Shrewsbury
    Danny Cowley at Lincoln
    Paul Cook at Wigan
    John Coleman at Accrington

    There's no doubt people scoffing at my suggestions right now, but all of those have had success as a manager, know the lower leagues inside out and are more qualified than Kluivert to manage our club.

    But unfortunately, they're not a.... 'Name'

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    At least he's not clinically insane.

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    The trouble is 123 if we like it or not Premier League players are all multi millionaires and all have very high opinions of themselves. It isn’t much difference in the Championship and surely we need to be trying to attract players good enough for the PL.

    Players don’t respect Managers from League 1 and 2 and don’t fancy playing for many others who have had experience and some success at the highest level - Pardew, Allerdyce, Pulis, Ranieri, Conte even Mourinho was ousted at Chelsea, the list goes on and on.

    Not saying Kluivert is the answer but for me looking at Leagues 1 or 2 is definitely not the answer unless that is where we end up at the end of next season and we expect to stay there for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    Jesus Christ. What am I reading???

    You have to ask yourself, why is he being linked? It ain't because of his managerial ability, its because he's a 'name'.

    Also ask yourself, will Kluivert care that much if he got the job and failed? And what does Kluivert know about the Championship? Because from what I know, he has never been involved in it, or English football at all apart from a few months at Newcastle 20 years ago.

    If we're going to go for a 'name' we might as well go for the English route as other have mentioned, a Lampard or Gerrard. At least they know a bit about the Prem / have good contacts.

    It won't be easy to choose our next manager, but I'd rather go for a manager who has earned a shot by doing well in the lower leagues.

    Off the top of my head, I'd rather one of these:

    Nathan Jones at Luton
    Paul Hurst at Shrewsbury
    Danny Cowley at Lincoln
    Paul Cook at Wigan
    John Coleman at Accrington

    There's no doubt people scoffing at my suggestions right now, but all of those have had success as a manager, know the lower leagues inside out and are more qualified than Kluivert to manage our club.

    But unfortunately, they're not a.... 'Name'

    Paul Cook ex Wolves !?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evewolf65 View Post
    Paul Cook ex Wolves !?
    If it was Cook, there would only be one certainty.

    Chris Brunt would have the second most cultured left foot at the Hawthorns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evewolf65 View Post
    Paul Cook ex Wolves !?
    Well you had Ronnie Allen who built the side Mcgarry took all the credit for.

    TBH honest anyone and everyone is a risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarmbaggie View Post
    The trouble is 123 if we like it or not Premier League players are all multi millionaires and all have very high opinions of themselves. It isn’t much difference in the Championship and surely we need to be trying to attract players good enough for the PL.

    Players don’t respect Managers from League 1 and 2 and don’t fancy playing for many others who have had experience and some success at the highest level - Pardew, Allerdyce, Pulis, Ranieri, Conte even Mourinho was ousted at Chelsea, the list goes on and on.

    Not saying Kluivert is the answer but for me looking at Leagues 1 or 2 is definitely not the answer unless that is where we end up at the end of next season and we expect to stay there for a few years.
    I should have added Big Dave to the list!

    Don't forget, Pep Guardiola and Jose Mourinho had to start somewhere. At one point in their careers they didn't have the experience and someone gave them a shot.

    I'm just saying that I'd rather we give someone a chance than go for another failed, over the hill manager looking for a payday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBA123 View Post
    I should have added Big Dave to the list!

    Don't forget, Pep Guardiola and Jose Mourinho had to start somewhere. At one point in their careers they didn't have the experience and someone gave them a shot.

    I'm just saying that I'd rather we give someone a chance than go for another failed, over the hill manager looking for a payday.
    We just proved Mourinho is no great shakes...if he was managing in Spain or Italy he would have been sacked losing to bottom of the league...:-)

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