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Thread: USA and Allies strike Syria

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    The Syrian strike seems to have been well targeted and successful in taking out chemical weapons factories
    There was a massive air strike a year ago which the US proudly declared had put an end to Assad's ability to produce and use chemical weapons. Since then nothing for a year, until yesterday when chemical weapons factories and storage facilities have appeared from nowhere, as if by magic, and been destroyed. I cannot help but be reminded of Saddam's fantasy WMDs, ready to be deployed in under an hour according to our Prime Minister. I think they gave up the search for them a while ago.

    There are still some very gullible people around, who believe everything our government tells them, everything they read in the papers or news broadcasts. That alleged chemical attack that caused the airstrikes last year, how many are aware that the organisation that produced the report, sort of attributing blame to Assad, never actually visited the site of the attack ? Has anyone seen any independent verification that this latest attack was carried out by Assad ? If so, please point me in the right direction because I haven't. Has anyone seen a report from a western journalist from anywhere closer to the Gouta than Beirut, which I believe is about 70 miles away ? I haven't, and from 70 miles away they have no more idea of what is happening there, or happened there, than anyone on this msgboard has.
    Last edited by sinkov; 15-04-2018 at 08:51 AM.

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    The only people who seem to be around when there is an alleged chemical attack is the so-called White Helmets.They were set up by the same people as the Blackwater group in Iraq and are funded by the UK and America.That should tell you everything you need to know.The reason no other reporters are there is because our "moderate rebel” jihadist friends will take them hostage then cut their heads off or burn them alive.
    Trump,referring to Russia and Iran`s support of Syria, said in his speech after the strikes that" why would any nation want to be associated with a country that murders innocent men,women and children”.We do not have any concrete evidence of that scenario but we do have concrete evidence of another country that has done exactly that in Yemen so in that case he better send some more ballistic missiles to rain down on Riyadh.I wont hold my breath.
    We are being played like sheep.We learnt nothing from WMD in Iraq.The biggest gas reserves ever found are just south of Syria in Qatar and Assad has refused to allow a pipeline though his country because of his alliance with Russia.He,therefore has to be removed in the eyes of some and be replaced by a puppet ruler.It does not matter how many civilians get slaughtered in the meantime.
    As for previous alleged chemical attacks even US weapon specialists do not believe the narrative from Washington.I quote:-

    Theodore Postol, a national security specialist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, concluded that the White House claims were clearly bogus, writing:
    “I*have reviewed the document carefully, and I believe it can be shown, without doubt, that the document*does not provide any evidence whatsoever that the US government has concrete knowledge that the*government of Syria was the source of the chemical attack in Khan Shaykhun, Syria at roughly 6 to 7 a.m.*on April 4, 2017.*
    “In fact, a main piece of evidence that is cited in the document points to an attack that was executed by*individuals on the ground, not from an aircraft, on the morning of April 4.*This conclusion is based on an assumption made by the White House when it cited the source of the sarin*release and the photographs of that source.*My own assessment, is that the source was very likely*tampered with or staged, so no serious conclusion could be made from the photographs cited by the White*House.”]

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    Your post just about perfectly sums up all of this nonsense CiB.

    Sinkov is also bang on the money which is most unusual!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Your post just about perfectly sums up all of this nonsense CiB.

    Sinkov is also bang on the money which is most unusual!
    So is Jeremy Corbyn, which is more unusual still

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    How come we all agree on this, but fight hammer and tong over everything else?

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    Maybe because we all remember the lies that got us involved in Iraq, and we can all recognise lying, duplicitous politicians when we see them, and we're seeing plenty of them at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    we can all recognise lying, duplicitous politicians when we see them, and we're seeing plenty of them at the moment.
    Jeremy fits that bill perfectly. He wouldn’t sanction any action without a UN resolution. Great so that will never happen as Russia has the power of veto.
    In any conflict he wants to get everyone round the table for a chat. Lovely but where did that get with the Nazis?

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    With all this fake news around these days ,do we really know from the media what to believe?.......Read for yourself......

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...iracy-theories


    The Russia-backed campaign to link the volunteer rescuers with al-Qaida exposes how conspiracy theories take root: ‘It’s like a factory’.


    The Syrian volunteer rescue workers known as the White Helmets have become the target of an extraordinary disinformation campaign that positions them as an al-Qaida-linked terrorist organisation.

    The Guardian has uncovered how this counter-narrative is propagated online by a network of anti-imperialist activists, conspiracy theorists and trolls with the support of the Russian government (which provides military support to the Syrian regime).
    The White Helmets, officially known as the Syria Civil Defence, is a humanitarian organisation made up of 3,400 volunteers – former teachers, engineers, tailors and firefighters – who rush to pull people from the rubble when bombs rain down on Syrian civilians. They’ve been credited with saving thousands of civilians during the country’s continuing civil war.

    Despite this positive international recognition, there’s a counter-narrative pushed by a vocal network of individuals who write for alternative news sites countering the “MSM agenda”. Their views align with the positions of Syria and Russia and attract an enormous online audience, amplified by high-profile alt-right personalities, appearances on Russian state TV and an army of Twitter bots.

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    Spain deports Russian hacker linked to billions of spam emails at US request. (Is it cyber-warfare coming near You?)

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-0...to-usa/9393316

    A Russian man accused of operating a network of infected computers used by cybercriminals has been extradited to the United States from Spain.
    Pyotr Levashov, from St. Petersburg, was arrested in April 2017 while vacationing with his family in Barcelona.
    US prosecutors said Mr Levashov, 37, ran the Kelihos botnet, a network of more than 100,000 infected devices used by cybercriminals to distribute viruses, ransomware, phishing emails and other spam attacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldcolner View Post
    Jeremy fits that bill perfectly. He wouldn’t sanction any action without a UN resolution. Great so that will never happen as Russia has the power of veto.
    In any conflict he wants to get everyone round the table for a chat. Lovely but where did that get with the Nazis?
    FFS OC, that's bloody bollox! Corbyn brings a voice of reason to a world of visceral politicians.

    Just tell me in one sentence OC, what has bombing Syria again actually achieved?

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