Latest News-ZERO evidence of chemical weapons attack in Douma

[sinkov]

Is there any incontrovertible evidence yet that this attack actually took place, and if it did that it was carried out by the Assad regime ?
I suspect the answer is NO, but I stand to be corrected.

[footy_le_bordel]

[The Bedlington Terrier]

If someone was foaming at the mouth would you hug and kiss them?

[footy_le_bordel]

following is interesting and answers those who reckon it couldn't be assad cos 'he's winning' and so it wouldn't make sense. info from french gvt.

The tactic adopted by pro-regime forces involved separating the various groups (Ahrar al-Sham, Faylaq al-Rahman, and Jaysh al-Islam) in order to focus their efforts and obtain negotiated surrender agreements. The three main armed groups therefore began separate negotiations with the regime and Russia. The first two groups (Ahrar al-Sham and Faylaq al-Rahman) concluded agreements that resulted in the evacuation of nearly 15,000 fighters and their families.

During this first phase, the Syrian regime’s political and military strategy consisted in alternating indiscriminate military offensives against local populations, which sometimes included the use of chlorine, and pauses in operations for negotiations.

Negotiations with Jaysh al-Islam began in March but were not fully conclusive. On 4 April, part of the Jaysh al-Islam group (around one quarter of the group according to estimates) accepted the surrender agreement and fighters and their families were sent to Idlib (approximately 4,000 people, with families).

However, between 4,500 and 5,500 Jaysh al-Islam fighters, mostly located in Douma, refused the terms of negotiation. As a result, from 6 April onwards, the Syrian regime, with support from Russian forces, resumed its intensive bombing of the area, ending a pause in ground and aerial operations that had been observed since negotiations began in mid-March. This was the context for the chemical strikes analysed in this document.

Given this context, the Syrian regime’s use of chemical weapons makes sense from both the military and strategic points of view:

Tactically speaking, this type of ammunition is used to flush out enemy fighters sheltering in homes and engage in urban combat in conditions that are more favourable to the regime. It accelerates victory and has a multiplier effect that helps speed up the capitulation of the last bastion of armed groups.

Strategically speaking, chemical weapons and particularly chlorine, documented in Eastern Ghouta since early 2018, are especially used to punish civilian populations present in zones held by fighters opposed to the Syrian regime and to create a climate of terror and panic that encourages them to surrender.

[Supersub6]

All this conjecture --but yet not one of US knows anything except what THEY (from all sides) want to tell you.What is the point of getting all uptight about it? There is absolutely nothing that you can do about it except volunteer to take in some refugees who may have flown the scene. That would be real practical help.

[Balanbam00]

Super :
''There is absolutely nothing that you can do about it except volunteer to take in some refugees who may have flown the scene. That would be real practical help.''

That sentence reminds me what Israeli Farmers did to the arabs of the West bank. They gave them work to earn a wage. But what happened? In short they stabbed the farmers ,killed them! Insted of arabs working here Thai people do it, perhaps some 30 thousand.

[oldcolner]

Our Salisbury "attack" with one contaminated door handle is going to take at least nine months to make safe, will need 150 trained military personnel and a budget of millions of pounds according to a dude from Wiltshire County Council last night.

I can't see how a few Russian troops who were put into the area and allegedly denied the inspection team access for several days could possibly clean the sites up in less than a week.

We are being played like a violin.

But BT you really enjoy being fiddled!
Get the facts first.
The poison in Syria was sarin and chlorine gas not nowichok. Both dissolve quickly in water, so get the hosepipes out and pick up the canisters and lo and behold no incontrovertible evidence - if you don’t listen to and believe the people who experienced it and had similar experiences and symptoms. It seems some think 5 year olds can be trained to tell lies, or choose to have that belief.
Jeremy has no humanity just loyalty to his political pals and no backbone to take any action.

[Norder]

Get the facts first.
The poison in Syria was sarin and chlorine gas not novichok......

shouldn't that be....The Alleged poison in Syria - Colner ?

I think that msm only dropped running the line of....supposed, purported, alleged etc - on the evening and following morning of the retaliatory bombings - then picked it up again.

[oldcolner]

I don’t think so here’s a report from the Guardian from doctors involved in treatment.

The head of the largest medical relief agency in Syria claims that medics who responded to the suspected gas attack in Douma have been subjected to “extreme intimidation” by Syrian officials who seized biological samples, forced them to abandon patients and demanded their silence.

Dr Ghanem Tayara, the director of the Union of Medical Care and Relief Organisations (UOSSM) said doctors responsible for treating patients in the hours after the 7 April attack have been told that their families will be at risk if they offer public testimonies about what took place.
“There has been a very heavy security presence on the ground ever since the attack and they have been targeting doctors and medics in a very straightforward way,” said Tayara, a Birmingham-based physician, now in Turkey where he is supervising the departure from Syria of some of the Douma medics. “Any medic who tried to leave Douma was searched so vigorously, especially for samples. At one medical point, seven casualties were taken away. The Russian military police were heavily involved. They were directing things.

“They were looking through their WhatsApp messages and phones. The doctors were treated abusively and have been threatened ever since. Their families have been threatened that they will pay a price and they themselves have told they will be arrested, and much more if they give any evidence, or interviews about what happened in Douma.”

Testimonies of first responders and witnesses are crucial to building a picture of what took place in Douma around 7.30pm on 7 April when, in the middle of a prolonged series of airstrikes, medics in the area say they were overrun by patients, many of whom displayed symptoms of exposure to a nerve agent.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...uma-gas-attack

[The Bedlington Terrier]

"You said, he said, she said."

Show us the bloody EVIDENCE!