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Thread: Seems a bit stupid

  1. #11
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    Silly old Sod Alf and his world views .

    Endanger lives .... 😂

  2. #12
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    Perhaps I’m being too snowflake, but some extremely evil things have happened in Myanmar (probably still going on) that have definitely not been addressed, so I’m disappointed (to put it mildly) if the club simply views this as a good commercial opportunity and nothing else.

    This is the last time I’ll post on this matter here unless new information is revealed that supports the club’s decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joellufcprice View Post
    Lets be honest though how many of you genuinely knew what was going on there before this announcement?

    Going there is not an issue in the slightest infact it can help solve the problem and atrocity that is going on (in parts, not all) of Myanmar, what issues like this need sadly is publicity which leads to public uproar which leads to action being taken and whether or not their intentions are financial this can only help to solve the plight.

    Now, if Leeds United go there, play games, come home and do nothing then it is a wasted opportunity. If they go there, help kids, raise awareness and build strong bonds then as far as I'm concerned it is positive.

    I know people love to hit the moral outrage button as soon as possible but this tour in no way helps the people committing the atrocity, we are not going there to raise money for them or support them and why should the kids and regular people in that country be denied what for them will be quite a big deal.

    Sums it up for me that most people are bothered about 'our fans' who can choose to go, they don't have to whereas the people living there have no choice and I'm sure if you ask them they'd quite like us to come over. Whilst claiming it is some deep rooted worry for the actual people being killed and made to feel parts of the country. This will be good for the people of Myanmar in many ways.
    I'm well aware.if what us nd has been "going on", in Myanmar well before th tour was announced. If you weren't them your grasp on world affairs is a tad limited TBH. Aung Sang Su Chi was given the Nobel peace prize for her resistance to what at the time of her imprisonment was a military dictatorship in Burma, something she was stripped of following her release and subsequent election to head of state overseeing the genocide committed against the Muslim minority. All this was and is reported regularly in the media, and was considered by the Leeds board before the decision to tour was made (Radrizzani open letter makes that very clear).

    The tour will benefit, first and foremost, Radrizzani commercial interests in sports media selling. Two games held under strict government supervision (as all public gatherings are), and a few coaching sessions with a handful if local youth, will benefit the whole of Myanmar and specifically the 700k Muslims forced out of their lands and property by state-sponsored terrorism NOT ONE JOT.

    The Leeds United club collective moral compass is non-existent in this matter.

  4. #14
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    If you want to visit a 3rd world corrupt socialist country with hundreds of laws that discriminate against white people that will soon be the new Zimbabwe or Venezuela of the Pacific.....come to New Zealand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTF11 View Post
    I'm well aware.if what us nd has been "going on", in Myanmar well before th tour was announced. If you weren't them your grasp on world affairs is a tad limited TBH. Aung Sang Su Chi was given the Nobel peace prize for her resistance to what at the time of her imprisonment was a military dictatorship in Burma, something she was stripped of following her release and subsequent election to head of state overseeing the genocide committed against the Muslim minority. All this was and is reported regularly in the media, and was considered by the Leeds board before the decision to tour was made (Radrizzani open letter makes that very clear).

    The tour will benefit, first and foremost, Radrizzani commercial interests in sports media selling. Two games held under strict government supervision (as all public gatherings are), and a few coaching sessions with a handful if local youth, will benefit the whole of Myanmar and specifically the 700k Muslims forced out of their lands and property by state-sponsored terrorism NOT ONE JOT.

    The Leeds United club collective moral compass is non-existent in this matter.
    The difficulty with using ethics/morality as a compass for decision making is that there is very little unanimity as to what is right and wrong in the harder cases and thus virtually impossible to make rationale objective decisions.

    whatever my own personal views, which I shall keep to myself, trying to judge things based purely on moral grounds is tricky and social media outrage is no real guide either.

    That is even before you get into the territory of consistency and thus how your stance in one jurisdiction impacts your stance in others.

    But ultimately, what any of us think will make little if any difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmybn View Post
    Silly old Sod Alf and his world views .

    Endanger lives .... 
    Listen here Mavo,I'm only looking after you Yawkies interests.. I'd hate for any of them to be subjected to what the locals are suffering..

    #Alfiebelievesinhumanrights...

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